Outlawz - Neva Surrenda

Complete Chaos · 08-13-2003, 02:47 AM

this album is mad slept on

why didnt a lot of people like it?

is their other 2 albums (Ride Wit Us or Collide Wit Us & Novakane) ill?

j$crILLa · 08-13-2003, 02:54 AM

cuz its not mainstream and everyone sleeps then

OG FrOgGy JoHnSoN · 08-13-2003, 05:50 AM

ride wit us orcollide wit us is dope as fuck

SiLK83out · 08-15-2003, 04:07 AM

o snaps.... the first time i see someone actually likes an outlaw album lol....

i LOVE this cd.... its one of this cd's u can just chill 2.... im big on tha outlawz style and this is some older stuff...so i appreciate it...

If you were thinkin about gettin' one of their other two LP's (RWOCWU vs Novakane)... I'd have to go with RWOCWU. Even though Novakane is a lil older... the beats are "more Outlaw" i guess u can say.

Even Kastro admitted that with Novakane that made some songs that aren't really them, tryin to appeal to the masses a lil.

Don't get me wrong though...Novakane has some ILL songs like "2nd Hand Smoke", "History", and "So Many Stories" and a grip more... I guess they only crossed up their style on a couple of songs on this one ("worldwide remix, "this is the life")

Hmm... maybe I do like Novakane more.... man i dunno... they are both hot....

MistaChipz · 08-16-2003, 09:47 PM

What the fuck...I Thought talent meant something...The album was fine, besides the fact that the beats were wack, the rapping was awful, minus castro on a few choice tracks, and the lp as a whole was pure garbage...

The Outlawz have corny hooks and sloppy flowz, Fatal is the only one with a somewhat consistent flow and ofcourse he wasnt on the lp...I bought it cuzz it was on rapalot so i thought it might be decent......

I knoe,music is subjective so u like what u like but i think the outlawz as a whole are garbage..WACK RAPPERS MAKE BAD SONGS, plain and simple......

My fav song was "Pleasure of Sin" and that was cuzz YUK was on it....

I give it a 1/5

SiLK83out · 08-17-2003, 03:24 AM

see....this is what i was talkin about when i was sayin im used to people hatin' on them...at least he respected the fact that music is subjective....

i guess the reason i like them so much is i can relate to what their talkin about. they talk about everyday struggles.... losing girlfriend.... losing friends/family members.... its not that type of stuff ur bump in ur ride and people are gonna stop and be like "damn...what's that song"...its music u throw on an chill too.... listen to the words and what not....

There may be plenty of other groups/artists that may talk about the same thing, but do so "in a more lyrical manner"....but the outlawz have always done it for me.

maybe its different 2 me... i've always liked the outlawz style they've come with... how their different styles come together.... they are my fav group bar none....but don't get it twisted...i'm not a dickryder..i can tell you honestly a lot of their beats r strugglin....mainly when they want to try and make a up-beat / party song (ie "this is the life") when they stick to their style though, that's what does it for me....

just curious.... what were u thoughts on songs like "everything is alright", "us", "why" and "lost and turned out".... don't just say they sucked if u don't like them... im just wonderin' cuase those r some of my fav songs off that cd and i'd just like to know what ppl that aren't particulary outlaw fans think about them....

MistaChipz · 08-17-2003, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SiLK83out

see....this is what i was talkin about when i was sayin im used to people hatin' on them...at least he respected the fact that music is subjective....

i guess the reason i like them so much is i can relate to what their talkin about. they talk about everyday struggles.... losing girlfriend.... losing friends/family members.... its not that type of stuff ur bump in ur ride and people are gonna stop and be like "damn...what's that song"...its music u throw on an chill too.... listen to the words and what not....

There may be plenty of other groups/artists that may talk about the same thing, but do so "in a more lyrical manner"....but the outlawz have always done it for me.

maybe its different 2 me... i've always liked the outlawz style they've come with... how their different styles come together.... they are my fav group bar none....but don't get it twisted...i'm not a dickryder..i can tell you honestly a lot of their beats r strugglin....mainly when they want to try and make a up-beat / party song (ie "this is the life") when they stick to their style though, that's what does it for me....

just curious.... what were u thoughts on songs like "everything is alright", "us", "why" and "lost and turned out".... don't just say they sucked if u don't like them... im just wonderin' cuase those r some of my fav songs off that cd and i'd just like to know what ppl that aren't particulary outlaw fans think about them....

Hatin?...Learn the definition of hatin from a hiphop standpoint....Hatin is when one dislikes an artist for no particular reason, maybe becuzz of envy, jealousy, or pure ignorance.....IM NOT HATING....

Not Outlaw in particular besides FATAL has any substanial talent....

Im a former crip, ive been locked up, ive been stabbed, beat up, and shot at....Ive found God, faith, so I knoe I can relate to Napolean....Ive lost close close homies so I knoe I can relate 2 Fatal and my pops been gone so once again I can relate to Napolean......

Fuck outta here with the relating shit...Where is the talent...Corny beats....bad flowz.....BADDDD SONGS.....

Whats wrong with u people....Im right....Ur wrong...get it through ya skulls....I dont believe all opinions should be respected when they uplift wack ass rappers like the LAWZ....

AND Pac is my fav rapper of all times for Gods sake...why would I hate on his group....pick ur words more carefully....

SiLK83out · 08-17-2003, 03:38 PM

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Fuck outta here with the relating shit...Where is the talent...Corny beats....bad flowz.....BADDDD SONGS.....Whats wrong with u people....Im right....Ur wrong...get it through ya skulls....I dont believe all opinions should be respected when they uplift wack ass rappers like the LAWZ....

damn....ur right !! thanks for setting me free from my own wack tastes... i feel so foolish for enjoying their music the last 8 years....

it seems like i got you pretty heated by tellin u why i like the Outlawz...sorry man.... i like them as a group, and if their beats r corny and their flowz are bad.... i guess i like corny beats with bad flowz for the most part.... i'm not really trippin...

but u didn't address my question.....

Quote:

just curious.... what were u thoughts on songs like "everything is alright", "us", "why" and "lost and turned out".... don't just say they sucked if u don't like them... im just wonderin' cuase those r some of my fav songs off that cd and i'd just like to know what ppl that aren't particulary outlaw fans think about them....

or are those songs just thrown in the generic group of having "crony beats....bad flowz...." and being "baddd songs" ? Cuase if it is .... u don't gotta reply... I just thought u might address the songs specifically....

MistaChipz · 08-18-2003, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SiLK83out

damn....ur right !! thanks for setting me free from my own wack tastes... i feel so foolish for enjoying their music the last 8 years....

it seems like i got you pretty heated by tellin u why i like the Outlawz...sorry man.... i like them as a group, and if their beats r corny and their flowz are bad.... i guess i like corny beats with bad flowz for the most part.... i'm not really trippin...

but u didn't address my question.....

or are those songs just thrown in the generic group of having "crony beats....bad flowz...." and being "baddd songs" ? Cuase if it is .... u don't gotta reply... I just thought u might address the songs specifically....

Im not gonna go back to listen to the wack shit I realized was wack when I first listened, and to be honest i cant find the disc or I would be quotin the wack ass hooks and verses......"Playtime" and the torturous "whaaa, Gatz Up" was enuff to asure the fact that id never bump that piece of shit lp again.....I have plenty of quality emmotional ish to bump...from Pacs "Krazy" to MOPs "Blood Sweat and TEARS"....

And I guess u do like wack beats and corny flowz...not to mention wack rhyme schemes, bad deliveries, and horrible hooks.....Ohh and is it me or is EDI extra wack....Castro is cool at times doe...

fucc outta here....Fuck the wack ass outlwaz...8 years?, man thats 8 years of wasted life....u gotta be sniffin some good coke if u think those fools are ill....

Being "real" isnt sufficient enuff to satisfy my taste....I NEED TALENT...

and ur welcome...Im happy I could enlighten you, every outlaw fan swayed is a life saved....

Blunted Reality · 09-06-2003, 07:43 PM

Fuck Outlawz

Lil Killa · 09-07-2003, 04:44 PM

the outlawz are completly talentless

Killa Kadafi (x13) · 09-08-2003, 09:46 AM

outlawz were sik wit pac and yak and fatal and napo ...

pac died ...

yaki kadafi died ...

fatal left ...

napo left ...

leaves kastro the only good one left, and the albums are sik as, especially ride wit us or collide wit us, bangers ...

DaiN · 09-08-2003, 04:12 PM

few songs i like...

str8soulja · 09-17-2003, 04:14 AM

Ride Wit Us was a brilliant Debut

Novakane followed up well

Neva Surrender is just a compilation type album, and there are some real nice tracks on there...

TheCyril01 · 09-25-2003, 06:33 PM

I like Novakane,its some tite lil eastcoast vibes,i think the best is Kastro

KeYz · 09-28-2003, 08:38 AM

I just say it in the stores yesterday.

09-30-2003, 04:25 PM

Outlawz are wack.

BIG-L · 10-07-2003, 12:53 AM

stfu faggot , ur wwhack

BIG-L · 10-07-2003, 12:54 AM

u wanna be gangsta , look at u froning at the computer trieng to earn respect

10-07-2003, 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkeB IjK

Outlawz are wack.

I've already stated that.

08-13-2003, 02:47 AM	#1 (permalink)
Complete Chaos I'm Drugs. Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: United States of Amerikkka Posts: 24,269	Outlawz - Neva Surrenda this album is mad slept on why didnt a lot of people like it? is their other 2 albums (Ride Wit Us or Collide Wit Us & Novakane) ill? __________________ Complete Chaos is not the owner of this name anymore.

08-13-2003, 02:54 AM	#2 (permalink)
j$crILLa ~$crill-DeVille~ Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: NORTHSYDE MADcity wisconsin Posts: 12,636	cuz its not mainstream and everyone sleeps then __________________ j$crILLa aka Cadillac'J' Drunkest Mu'fucka on RM. $crillVille This is My world +North$yde+ *<Money> Alcohol <Bitchez>*

08-13-2003, 05:50 AM	#3 (permalink)
OG FrOgGy JoHnSoN ALCATRAZ INC. Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: oakland and little rock Posts: 1,011	ride wit us orcollide wit us is dope as fuck __________________ MYSPACE BITCHES!!!! HOLLA AT ME oh yea.. 2pac is the greatest...cause he be "pluckin holes in nyggas like donuts!"

08-15-2003, 04:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
SiLK83out Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: UCSB Posts: 949	o snaps.... the first time i see someone actually likes an outlaw album lol.... i LOVE this cd.... its one of this cd's u can just chill 2.... im big on tha outlawz style and this is some older stuff...so i appreciate it... If you were thinkin about gettin' one of their other two LP's (RWOCWU vs Novakane)... I'd have to go with RWOCWU. Even though Novakane is a lil older... the beats are "more Outlaw" i guess u can say. Even Kastro admitted that with Novakane that made some songs that aren't really them, tryin to appeal to the masses a lil. Don't get me wrong though...Novakane has some ILL songs like "2nd Hand Smoke", "History", and "So Many Stories" and a grip more... I guess they only crossed up their style on a couple of songs on this one ("worldwide remix, "this is the life") Hmm... maybe I do like Novakane more.... man i dunno... they are both hot.... __________________ "Believe in the Lord, Better Yet, Believe in Yourself, it Might Be Nobody There When You Need Some Help" - Young Noble

08-16-2003, 09:47 PM	#5 (permalink)
MistaChipz Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lost Angels Posts: 4,347	What the fuck...I Thought talent meant something...The album was fine, besides the fact that the beats were wack, the rapping was awful, minus castro on a few choice tracks, and the lp as a whole was pure garbage... The Outlawz have corny hooks and sloppy flowz, Fatal is the only one with a somewhat consistent flow and ofcourse he wasnt on the lp...I bought it cuzz it was on rapalot so i thought it might be decent...... I knoe,music is subjective so u like what u like but i think the outlawz as a whole are garbage..WACK RAPPERS MAKE BAD SONGS, plain and simple...... My fav song was "Pleasure of Sin" and that was cuzz YUK was on it.... I give it a 1/5 Last edited by MistaChipz; 08-16-2003 at 09:48 PM.

08-17-2003, 03:24 AM	#6 (permalink)
SiLK83out Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: UCSB Posts: 949	see....this is what i was talkin about when i was sayin im used to people hatin' on them...at least he respected the fact that music is subjective.... i guess the reason i like them so much is i can relate to what their talkin about. they talk about everyday struggles.... losing girlfriend.... losing friends/family members.... its not that type of stuff ur bump in ur ride and people are gonna stop and be like "damn...what's that song"...its music u throw on an chill too.... listen to the words and what not.... There may be plenty of other groups/artists that may talk about the same thing, but do so "in a more lyrical manner"....but the outlawz have always done it for me. maybe its different 2 me... i've always liked the outlawz style they've come with... how their different styles come together.... they are my fav group bar none....but don't get it twisted...i'm not a dickryder..i can tell you honestly a lot of their beats r strugglin....mainly when they want to try and make a up-beat / party song (ie "this is the life") when they stick to their style though, that's what does it for me.... just curious.... what were u thoughts on songs like "everything is alright", "us", "why" and "lost and turned out".... don't just say they sucked if u don't like them... im just wonderin' cuase those r some of my fav songs off that cd and i'd just like to know what ppl that aren't particulary outlaw fans think about them.... __________________ "Believe in the Lord, Better Yet, Believe in Yourself, it Might Be Nobody There When You Need Some Help" - Young Noble

09-06-2003, 07:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
Blunted Reality Still Blunted on Reality Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: District of Columbia a.k.a. Chocalate City Posts: 100,427	Fuck Outlawz __________________ Murder, Murder, Murder Kill, Kill, Kill

09-07-2003, 04:44 PM	#11 (permalink)
Lil Killa hmmm Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: your mothers room Posts: 2,307	the outlawz are completly talentless __________________ "..antisocial, i chill with my vocals..." - kae'daq

09-08-2003, 09:46 AM	#12 (permalink)
Killa Kadafi (x13) The FuKin' Answer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Land of 'PaK'... Posts: 1,637	outlawz were sik wit pac and yak and fatal and napo ... pac died ... yaki kadafi died ... fatal left ... napo left ... leaves kastro the only good one left, and the albums are sik as, especially ride wit us or collide wit us, bangers ... __________________ "Yo, I'm savage, I write rhymes in pitch blackness/ Any motherfucker that front, is left backless/ Y'all motherfuckers just burn into ashes/ Trying to step into the zone with Vinnie Paz is Black Sabbath/ ... ... I don't know how many kids my flow harms/ My gun control leave y'all with no arms/ Y'all love to smell the stench of dead bodies/ Left in the path of the pad of Khadafi/ ..."- Vinnie Paz - Ghengis Khan

09-08-2003, 04:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
DaiN King of New Orleans Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: New Orleans™ -__504 REP.resent__ Posts: 23,350	few songs i like... __________________ pure beats and rhymes... www.myspace.com/dain

09-17-2003, 04:14 AM	#14 (permalink)
str8soulja str8soulja Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 8,893	Ride Wit Us was a brilliant Debut Novakane followed up well Neva Surrender is just a compilation type album, and there are some real nice tracks on there...

09-25-2003, 06:33 PM	#15 (permalink)
TheCyril01 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 48	I like Novakane,its some tite lil eastcoast vibes,i think the best is Kastro

09-28-2003, 08:38 AM	#16 (permalink)
KeYz super stupid Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Florida Posts: 642	I just say it in the stores yesterday. __________________ Keyz Soundclick Page yahoo aim = mrpolarbear2004

09-30-2003, 04:25 PM	#17 (permalink)
Starhaad Guest Posts: n/a	Outlawz are wack.

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BIG-L My member is platinum Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 827	stfu faggot , ur wwhack __________________ hell yeah hey dj bring that back!!!

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