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Old 05-06-2006, 01:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Hopefully for your sake, you don't get the #1 team in the first round next year.

You got a good squad....get healthy, you'll be a problem..

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Remember the 1st game when they got beat on something terrible?

The Spurs should have automatically advanced after that game.
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BTW their squad sucks, nobody on that roster has any heart.
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Artest doesn't have heart?
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Not the Artest that got push/slapped by Ben Wallace, and then ran to the scorers table to lay down.
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...and then proceeded to jump into the stands and beat the shit out of the fans.

Oh and by your logic Tim Duncan has ZERO heart because I recall plenty of times when KG would get right in TD's face and verbally assult the shit out of him and TD wouldn't do nothing but walk away. Now tell me how that's different?
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Yes, Artest went into the stands to beat on a little 160 pound white guy.

That's heart?

Heart when the Pacers stood by him on his 70 game suspension, and then when he comes back he says he wants a trade?

Wonderful heart.



Because Tim Duncan is in the 2nd round of the NBA playoffs every year and Garnett is just a screaming loser. Garnett can rant and rave all he wants, he's all bravado. Why should Duncan do anything, he's where Garnett wishes he could be.
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Yes, Artest went into the stands to beat on a little 160 pound white guy.

That's heart?

Heart when the Pacers stood by him on his 70 game suspension, and then when he comes back he says he wants a trade?

Wonderful heart.

Because Tim Duncan is in the 2nd round of the NBA playoffs every year and Garnett is just a screaming loser. Garnett can rant and rave all he wants, he's all bravado. Why should Duncan do anything, he's where Garnett wishes he could be.
Well first off, him going crazy in Detroit wasn't my example of him having heart, I just threw that in there. But don't try and have it both ways. Maybe Artest felt like, we're winning the game I don't need to respond to Wallace. If Artest has no heart because he didn't retaliate when he got pushed, then Duncan has no heart for not retaliating , Garnett has no heart for not retaliating against Peeler, Ginobli has no heart for retaliating against Artest, Kobe has no heart for not retaliating against Raja Bell.

Basically what I'm saying is your original point was stupid!
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...and then proceeded to jump into the stands and beat the shit out of the fans.

Oh and by your logic Tim Duncan has ZERO heart because I recall plenty of times when KG would get right in TD's face and verbally assult the shit out of him and TD wouldn't do nothing but walk away. Now tell me how that's different?

naw its called being a psych major...im sure it pissed KG off knowing that none of his lil childish ways were affecting duncan..

KG should just focus on making the playoffs instead of trying to look tough..
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Let me break it down for you since you seem to lack the faculties to reason or simply choose not to employ them.


The differences in situations and what leads up to them, and their respective outcomes, can be used as evidence to show 'a lack of heart.'


When Garnett gets in Duncan's face and he doesn't respond, it's not that he can't... it's that he doesn't need to.

He just shrugs off Garnetts attempts to lure him into anything.

So Duncan not responding to Garnett does not show a lack of heart, because the scenario has nothing to do with validating valour.

This is the little dog yapping at the big dog, and the big dog not caring.



Now in Artest's case during the brawl...

Artest was acting like he was a beast.

He was playing physical and trying to manhandle some of Detriots weaker players.

Nothing wrong with that.

But then, Ben Wallace takes exception to Artest's treatment of his teamates and returns the favor..

He push/slaps Artest. And how does Artest respond to this?

Faced with Big Ben and not Rip Hamilton, Artest turns tail and flees.

Artest didn't want to step up to Ben Wallace and that's cut and dry.

He backed down and ran away to the scorers table.

Here, the bully is picking on a little guy, but then the older brother shows up, and the bully is not so tough any more.

This was a display of cowardice, and hence, my example for his lack of heart.


My point was valid.

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The differences in situations and what leads up to them, and their respective outcomes, can be used as evidence to show 'a lack of heart.'


When Garnett gets in Duncan's face and he doesn't respond, it's not that he can't... it's that he doesn't need to....


My point was valid.

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Sure, only your point isn't valid. The Pacers had that game won and there like left than a minute left in the game. Artest already made his point his team won the game and he didn't need to respond and he didn't. Lindsey Hunter, probably the smallest guy on that team could've pushed him and he wasn't going to respond.

Also don't stretch the truth and say he "ran away" to the scorer's table. Wallace pushed Artest, the refs and players stepped between the two and then like a minute later Artest went to the scorer's table.

Your man-love for Duncan is obviously getting in the way of you getting the point which is... 'because a player doesn't respond to someone else's tactics doesn't mean he doesn't have heart'. Kobe got mauled by Raja Bell (alot worse than what Wallace did to Artest) and he didn't respond, are you telling me Kobe doesn't have heart?

Like I said, no offense or anything but your point is stupid.
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The response or lack of response is not what is indicative of heart.

It is the context surrounding the response or lack of response.

That is the point.



The Artest example is a case in point.

Artest did respond... he scampered over to the scorers table and acted a fool.

He can run into the stands to beat a puny guy up for tossing a cup,

But when Ben Wallace semi bitch slaps him, he avoids the confronatation?

If Artest was really a "Tru Warier" he would have at least stood toe to toe with Ben Wallace, facing him down.

But he doesn't.

That's where he showed his lack of heart.

I'm pretty sure being showed up by Ben Wallace minutes before, helped fuel Artest's desire to go show how tough he was...

But not against Ben Wallace - against an an easier target, once again displaying lack of heart.

He picks a fight he can win, and acts like a clown against a real opponent.
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Kobe got mauled by Raja Bell (alot worse than what Wallace did to Artest) and he didn't respond, are you telling me Kobe doesn't have heart?
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