Best DE Prospect?

[Ixtlan]

The Chiefs are desperately in need of help at getting to the quarterback.

Unfortunately, we're sitting at #20 in Round One and won't have a shot at Mario Williams. That said, where do you all have the DE's slotted in this year's draft class?
Fans around Chief Country are clamoring for Mathias Kiwanuka, but I've heard the word "bust" associated with his name more times than I'm comfortable with.

He's been called a 'one-trick' pony who isn't strong enough to deal with the massive LT's in the NFL. It's been said that he relies to much on his speed and doesn't have good technique.

Your thoughts?

[DannyC]

i was watching the combine yesterday while i was bored and that dude from ohio st. looks disgustingly good, like.. HOF good

i think his name is hawke? not sure

[DannyC]

nevermind tho, now that i think of it, i think that dude was a LB

[Ed E Brock]

Yeah, AJ Hawk is an LB... and he also wont be there by the 20th pick.

I read the thread title and wondered why the question was asked haha... thinking about SuperMario (arguably the best player in the draft).... but other than him...




Tamba Hali, 6-2, 267, Penn State
Hali has a very impressive repertoire of moves he uses on the line. Hali has started since his freshman year, so he could be the most polished DE in the entire draft with his experience. Hali finished the 2005 season with 11 sacks and 17 TFL. He is a natural athlete with good size and speed to match up at the next level. The Big Ten Conference Defensive Player of the Year and a consensus first-round choice. Tamba lacks traditional height for the position, but plays with hustle and determination.

Tamba in the news:
USATODAY.com - Hali has come too far to stop short
SportingNews.com - NFL - Tamba Hali's story is truly inspirational

ESPN/Scout: He has enough quickness, speed, power, athletic ability and toughness to eventually compete for a starting DE position in the NFL. Making Hali even more attractive are his rare motor and instincts, which will help him to contribute quicker than most rookies in 2006

FoxSports: Penn State defensive end Tamba Hali also has a size problem -- in this case it's the lack of enough of it. After measuring in at 275 pounds, prototypical of the position, Hali weighed in twelve pounds lighter at the Penn State Pro Day, leaving some to question how well he'll maintain his weight.



and Other than Williams, i think the best DE in the draft is...

Mathias Kiwanuka, 6-5, 252, Boston College
Draws comparisons to Philadelphia's Jevon Kearse for his explosive burst and ability to instantly close on a quarterback. Maybe the best pure pass rusher in the draft. Physical freak who runs a 4.6 40. Kiwanuka's strength is his ability to get to the quarterback. Kiwi finished the 2005 season with 49 tackles while leading BC with 9.5 quarterback sacks and 15.5 TFL. He set a BC school record with 37.5 career sacks. Late grand-father, Benedicto Kiwanuka, was elected Uganda's first prime minister in 1961 and assassinated in 1972.

Official College Site: http://bceagles.cstv.com/sports/m-fo...mathias00.html

ESPN/Scout: He is a tall DE prospect with great size potential, but his inability to add extra bulk and to play with consistent leverage is concerning. In order to maximize his physical skills in the NFL, Kiwanuka will need to get bigger and stronger, while also improving his overall technique. However, Kiwanuka possesses outstanding athletic ability and good speed for his frame, and his production at the collegiate level was exceptional. That's why, despite understandable concerns, Kiwanuka is still expected to come off the 2006 draft board by the end of the first round.

FoxSports: Draws comparisons to Philadelphia's Jevon Kearse for his explosive burst and ability to instantly close on a quarterback.

[Old Soul]

Turn that second dude into a MLB

[Ixtlan]

It's been said that Kiwi may have to play LB in the NFL if he can't get stronger...

[Ed E Brock]

^tamba?

that'd be nuts. I always wondered how Kearse would be as an LB while a titan.

[Old Soul]

Mathias'd be like Urlacher

[TeaBagger]

Yep, its pretty much Hali and Kiwanuka. Besides them you have Manny Lawson from NC ST. and Kam Wimbley from FSU. But both of those guys are 'tweeners and projected as LB's in a 34 defense.

[Ixtlan]

Originally Posted by Ed E Brock

^tamba?

that'd be nuts. I always wondered how Kearse would be as an LB while a titan.

Kiwi - Mathias Kiwanuka.

[toker]

elvis dumervil- 5'11 and still managed to break Suggs sack record






naw all sarcasm aside i bet the best DE will be somebody we dont expect

[Ixtlan]

Kiwanuka will be a bust if he can't get stronger and improve his technique.
He will face top-shelf Tackles every week in the NFL.

[Ed E Brock]

Originally Posted by Ixtlan

Kiwi - Mathias Kiwanuka.

yeah, I know.

Look at the times posted... i didnt see the one posted at 58.

[Newportz]

Yep

Mathias kiwanuka is the guy most draft experts are expecting the Cheifs to take...him or tye hill....the CB from clemson...


right now tho...any team after the 10th pick is a huge fucking toss-up....this is the first year where i've had absolutly no idea who will be picked..

Reggie Bush is locked...after that...it's anyone's guess.

[Ixtlan]

I don't know that the Chiefs are going to take Kiwi if he's there.
There have been reports that Hali may drop out of the 1st Round altogether.
They could snag Hill at #20 and maybe get Hali in the 2nd Round.

That'd be a much better value than Kiwi at #20.