LeBron James booed at home as Cavs lose to Wizards

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Old 02-25-2006, 07:49 PM   #21 (permalink)
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No he doesn't. Do the Lakers even have a winning record? If they do their only a game or two above .500. He doesn't "do it".



I know 90% of your posts are splashed with a tinge of sarcasm but I hope this one is as well. I'd hope you can remember the critical fans in Staples Center that let Kobe and Shaq have it night after night whenever they didn't perform well. I'd hope at least you would remember that (since perhaps the Activist can't).

yes, they do have a winning record. 28-27 thank u lol and kobe puts the lakers on his back every game, but he never chokes on free throws late in the game to decide the outcome. if u find me a game where his ft% late in the game lost that game, i'd be VERY surprised. sure, he throws up some shots late in the game that he misses and are bad decisions, but keep in mind during those games, the lakers are down by at least 10 points and the only way to come back with 2 minutes left is to shoot quick in the shotclock cuz time is not on your side.

as for kobe and shaq, they had a remarkable run. in 99-00 they were 67-15.. how can anyone boo at that? sure, they might've had a bad game or 2, but i honestly dont recall a single time where both of them got boo'd. i remember this season lakers got booed early on cuz they couldnt buy a basket, but it wasnt directed at 1 specific player, it was directed at the whole team.
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Bron's ill but he does seem to have some 4th quater breakdowns....

thus the reason wade>bron...

but hey when bron becomes a knick everything will be good.
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Old 02-25-2006, 10:41 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I didnt watch the game but I dont agree with the booing....

i agree with the booing. Lebron has done NOTHING the past 2 1/2 years. all of Cleveland's franchises suck, so the fans are a bit impatient.

if Tom Brady has a bad game, the fans shouldn't boo him cuz he's brought that city 3 superbowls.

if Derek Jeter's in a slump, he shouldn't be booed becuz he won 4 World Series for NY.

Dan Marino never deserved to get booed because even tho he never won a championship, he's been consistently great for years.

Dwayne Wade wouldn't be booed becuz from his rookie year he carried that team deep into the playoffs.

Lebron has done NOTHING to not earn boos. he'll be great from 1-3 quaters and be shitty in the fourth quarter. these fans know that he'll continue to give them nothing if he continues to melt down in the fourth quarter. you'll never win a championship that way.
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I'm as big of a Lakers fan that you'll probably meet, even though I don't spend too much time online talkin about them....but we can't act like Kobe has always been clutch. I DEFINITELY remember the 1997 playoffs when we got swept by Utah, and Kobe AIRBALLED 3-4 shots in the end of the game.

Lebron at 21 is definitely better than Kobe was at 21. Kobe didn't start gettin clutch til his 4th season, when they had Phil Jackson and they were servin and won their first championship with that team. Dwayne and Carmelo are definitely more clutch than Lebron is, but that small bit of college experience (along with Melo's year of prep school) probably have something to do with their skill in the clutch. I think clutch and killer instinct is something that some people are born with, and some are not...but I think it's something that can be developed.

And just to add, they are fucked up for booin him for everything he's done for their franchise, regardless of a bad game. I personally would never boo anybody who I am supportin, because if I was on the court, I'd be like "fuck you fairweather azz fans, what will happen if I left?" and that can make u lose confidence. I know it's not the YMCA days to where it's like "come on, everybody's a winner, give it your best!" but damn.
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Kobe missed that 3 aganist the Heat last Christmas to take it too OT.
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yea, that was fucked up.

the average cleveland fan is a complete dickhead though so it wasn't surprising.
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yes, they do have a winning record. 28-27 thank u lol and kobe puts the lakers on his back every game, but he never chokes on free throws late in the game to decide the outcome. if u find me a game where his ft% late in the game lost that game, i'd be VERY surprised. sure, he throws up some shots late in the game that he misses and are bad decisions, but keep in mind during those games, the lakers are down by at least 10 points and the only way to come back with 2 minutes left is to shoot quick in the shotclock cuz time is not on your side.
You said "Kobe can do it all by himself", and they're 28-27.

Kobe is arguably the NBA's best player---- on a team thats ONE game above .500.

You can't do it all by yourself. It doesn't happen. Basketball is a team game. That's why Kobe scored 39 points in a blowout loss to the Clippers last night.

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as for kobe and shaq, they had a remarkable run. in 99-00 they were 67-15.. how can anyone boo at that? sure, they might've had a bad game or 2, but i honestly dont recall a single time where both of them got boo'd. i remember this season lakers got booed early on cuz they couldnt buy a basket, but it wasnt directed at 1 specific player, it was directed at the whole team.
You must've not been watching basketball back then.

I can recall several semi-final and conference final matchups against the Spurs or Kings where the Lakers would go into the locker room at half down by 19 and getting booed out of the arena.

Hollywood fans are nowhere near as vicious as Cleveland though.
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Bron's ill but he does seem to have some 4th quater breakdowns....

thus the reason wade>bron...

but hey when bron becomes a knick everything will be good.
Yeah, if LeBron ever decides to sign a 7 year one dollar deal.


Oh wait, the Knicks still wouldn't be able to sign him.
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Kobe missed that 3 aganist the Heat last Christmas to take it too OT.
WuT!!?? ur crazy.. nobody misses teh clutch shots, dat nicca lebron is teh garbage in the clutch man dat nicca sucks b gasol > lebron
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he'll be great from 1-3 quaters and be shitty in the fourth quarter.
BZZZZ!! Oh, I'm sorry.. wrong answer! No grand prize give away for you!

Bob, lets show him the correct answer!

(This is from last season)

Iverson, the NBA's leading scorer with a 28.6 average, is the only player who ranks in the top five in the fourth quarter in scoring and assists. Only two others, LeBron James and Steve Francis, are even in the top 10 in both those categories in the fourth period.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baske...rs-table_x.htm

(This also from last season.. I tried to keep digging through the search engine for info from this season but I started getting lazy)

LeBron James lead the NBA in 4th quarter heroics, scoring 10+ points 22 times.

http://www.nba.com/bulls/news/fource_0405.html

You don't average over 30 ppg on 50% shooting by playing 3 quarters of basketball. But thanks for playing Activist.
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Those who say LeBron is not clutch or fails in the clutch are just simply incorrect. Don't spin b-ball knowledge from an overblown 2-16 stat or ESPN highlights. LeBron is extremely good in the 4th quarter, what many would also consider crunch time. Like I said before, he's not MJ down the stretch-- but he ain't Shawn Bradley either.

He comes through on the regular. As long as he doesn't have to do it on the FT line- which, as I've said many o' times now- he's not a great FT shooter. He shoots 72% on the season. He shot worse than that against the Wizards, but the fact that he misses free throws can't always be related to him being "not clutch". It's like when Tim Duncan misses clutch free throws- they aren't good FT shooters overall, it doesn't have everything to do with the amount of time left in the game.
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Lebron James has no killer instinct... probably never will. But fuck... Tim Duncan doesn't either, and we see how many rings he has.


But Philly fans are FAR worse than Cleveland fans. Those fuckers boo for the fun of it. While everyone else is is doing the "HEY!" song, philly fans are booing.
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I'm as big of a Lakers fan that you'll probably meet, even though I don't spend too much time online talkin about them....but we can't act like Kobe has always been clutch. I DEFINITELY remember the 1997 playoffs when we got swept by Utah, and Kobe AIRBALLED 3-4 shots in the end of the game.

Lebron at 21 is definitely better than Kobe was at 21. Kobe didn't start gettin clutch til his 4th season, when they had Phil Jackson and they were servin and won their first championship with that team. Dwayne and Carmelo are definitely more clutch than Lebron is, but that small bit of college experience (along with Melo's year of prep school) probably have something to do with their skill in the clutch. I think clutch and killer instinct is something that some people are born with, and some are not...but I think it's something that can be developed.

And just to add, they are fucked up for booin him for everything he's done for their franchise, regardless of a bad game. I personally would never boo anybody who I am supportin, because if I was on the court, I'd be like "fuck you fairweather azz fans, what will happen if I left?" and that can make u lose confidence. I know it's not the YMCA days to where it's like "come on, everybody's a winner, give it your best!" but damn.

[brahman] you can't compare lebron's first years to kobe's because kobe didn't get much playing time since the lakers had veterans and were stacked at kobe's position. the more playing time you get, the more experience and practice you get. keep in mind that kobe has a killer instinct, something lebron lacks.. and u dont develop it overtime either. yes, kobe was a rookie or whatnot, and he had veteran players around him when he shot those airballs. the key here is that he still shot it. the average fan might see a ballhog, whereas i see it as a player who is fearless, who has so much confidence in himself and his ability that he isn't afraid to take the last shot

dont forget that lebron has scrubs like ilgauskas, gooden, and eric snow (the softest player in the nba), whereas kobe had playoff-tested allstars like the defensive beast vlade divac, nick the quick, shaqasaurus, and eddie the hitman jones. back then, competition was a lot greater, with defenders being allowed to guard much closer and it was a physical game. now the rules have changed to make it easier to score and it seems like every player is scoring 40 a night, whereas back in the kobe bryant rookie era, it was a headline on the frontpage when a player dropped 40 [/brahman]
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^you didn't even mention anything about the poise of a struggling Del Harris, whose face often mismatched his fine silk suits due to the anger. The reflections of the sweaty black bodies in his glasses were enough to make the straitest of men cream their pants.


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Yeah, if LeBron ever decides to sign a 7 year one dollar deal.


Oh wait, the Knicks still wouldn't be able to sign him.

ur naivie man its wat the bball gods want....
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Somebody please explain to me how LeBron has no killer instinct or clutch ability.

I just stated that he led the NBA in 10+ point 4th quarters last year.

What exactly is that... playing soft down the stretch? I'm confused here- leading the league in a category in the most important quarter of the ball game is a bad thing? Help me out guys.

I know LeBron SAID he doesn't have the killer instinct, but that's mostly because the young man is so damn humble.
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L.A and Chi town are better situations.

Like I said before about all these "leaving" rumors.. the Cavs are always better than the teams mentioned.. ---- which kinda would defeat the purpose of him leaving? If he's "supposedly" unhappy with Cleveland then what would he do in New York? Jump off of MSG?

L.A and Chi town are at least worth time of discussion somewhat-- the Knicks? IT could probably sign a LeBron James upper deck card to a deal. That's as close as he'll get.

Make a rumor about him going to the Pistons or something...



I am glad he gets all the hate that he does. Just shows how good he really is.
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