At least Atlanta did something right

Mask2MyFace2 · 07-30-2007, 07:03 PM

They traded to get Mark Teixiera, an all-star. Smart move since we haven't done anything in free agency or trading since never we just let people go to other teams and be all-stars without trying to sign them back and let legends just waltz out the door and win 300 games without contract negotiations. I say we get to the playoffs now...and when we get there we won't lose in the first round.

Braves making moves especially with the inevitablity of the Mike Vick situation (they bout to throw the book at him...tell him to read it...Tony Taylor you motherfucker...shit) with the Falcons and Joey Harrington. It will be a miracle if we win 3 games this year, and the Hawks still being amongst the worst teams in the NBA ( why we couldn't get the #2 instead of the #3? bullshit).

Old Soul · 07-30-2007, 07:11 PM

Also traded Kyle Davies for Octavio Dotel and they're looking @ Bronson fuckin Arroyo lol

A franchise catcher is 5x more valuable than a franchise 1B, though.

Saltalamacchia > Texeira by a good margin, actually.

McCizoy · 07-30-2007, 09:43 PM

but McCann is better than Saltalamacchia so it makes trading him away less painful. I like the trade but it sucks knowing Teixeia is going to definitely hit the free agent market after next season and the Braves probably won't sign him.

And Kyle Davies fucking blows. Hopefully this is the move to get Wickman out of the closer role.

Nam Dekan · 07-30-2007, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Soul

Also traded Kyle Davies for Octavio Dotel and they're looking @ Bronson fuckin Arroyo lol

A franchise catcher is 5x more valuable than a franchise 1B, though.

Saltalamacchia > Texeira by a good margin, actually.

isn't Tex a free agent at the end of the season also. so he could just be a rental for the second half of the season. bad deal of giving up Salty if Tex ••••s..

wilmer deryou · 07-30-2007, 11:38 PM

i dont get texas

sure u got a GOOD catcher( who i wanted the red sox to make a run at for the future)..BUT U NEED PITCHING!!

THE CENTER PIECE OF A DEAL SHOULDA BEEN Starting Pitching... blah ..wuteva salty is gonna be good..but ur changing a good catcher for an all star first baseman..should got all pitching!

Nam Dekan · 07-31-2007, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by wilmer deryou

i dont get texas

sure u got a GOOD catcher( who i wanted the red sox to make a run at for the future)..BUT U NEED PITCHING!!

THE CENTER PIECE OF A DEAL SHOULDA BEEN Starting Pitching... blah ..wuteva salty is gonna be good..but ur changing a good catcher for an all star first baseman..should got all pitching!

Salty also plays first..

There was one pitching prospect in the deal though. I think the Angels had a good deal on the table..Kotchman and Joe Sanders and a mid level pitching prospect..

The thing that was rough about Tex was he might just turn out to be a rental so I think that's why it may have been hard to get something for him. At least they got something in return for him without loosing him for nothing

*Deuce Wilde* · 07-31-2007, 04:48 AM

holy shit, god damn the braves are a problemmmm now. sure they gave up their top 3 prospects or somethin in the deal, but they need to win now, can't lose the division 2 years in a row and we're a definite force now. hopefully they can re-sign tex tho, that's a potent ass offense. i remember when he entered the draft i was really hopin the braves would be able to get him since he went to G tech and all that, so this is dope. and dotel wooo i've always liked dude, didn't hear about that deal until just now. i'm fuckin excited for the second half now wow. and yeah salty wasn't a franchise catcher (yet) and who knows if he'd ever really develop into one, time will tell. but mccann's an all-star and hopefully will continue to get better

Old Soul · 07-31-2007, 08:46 PM

Salty's better than McCann. If not for McCann's season last year, he'd have been on the block.

McCizoy · 07-31-2007, 09:11 PM

he might end up being better yeah but right now he's not anywhere in McCann's stratosphere. Basically what you're saying is if McCann wasn't so good he'd get traded instead. They had 2 potential elite catchers and they decided to keep the one that has already established himself in the majors. Plus McCann is only a year older than than Salty.

If the Braves actually sign Teixeira before he's up after next season than it'll end up being a great deal in favor of the Braves. I'm actually more upset about the other guys in the deal than I am Salty.

*Deuce Wilde* · 07-31-2007, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Soul

Salty's better than McCann. If not for McCann's season last year, he'd have been on the block.

i don't know what you're basing salty being better than mccann off of...

Old Soul · 08-01-2007, 04:00 PM

Look @ McCann's minor league #'s

http://thebaseballcube.com/players/M/Brian-McCann.shtml

Last year was an anomaly and now he's coming back down to earth. His #'s this year basically mirror not only his minor league averages, but also Salty's line.

Salty's minor league #'s

http://thebaseballcube.com/players/S...amacchia.shtml

Undeniably better.

McCann 2007: 263/315/448/763
Salty: 284/333/411/744

Old Soul · 08-01-2007, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by McCizoy

he might end up being better yeah but right now he's not anywhere in McCann's stratosphere. Basically what you're saying is if McCann wasn't so good he'd get traded instead. They had 2 potential elite catchers and they decided to keep the one that has already established himself in the majors. Plus McCann is only a year older than than Salty.

If the Braves actually sign Teixeira before he's up after next season than it'll end up being a great deal in favor of the Braves. I'm actually more upset about the other guys in the deal than I am Salty.

McCann is NOT as good as he was last year. Now that the scouts have figured him out he's come down to earth.

McCizoy · 08-01-2007, 05:42 PM

Haha you tell me that Salty is better than McCann and to prove your point...you bring up minor league numbers.

What's also funny is you're using McCann's numbers this year (3/4 of the year actually) to disregard McCann's first full season. Why is this year what Atlanta is going to get from McCann from this point on and not what happened last year. Maybe this year is the anomaly. You have heard of the sophomore slump right?

But anyway back to the main point, McCann is a 2 time All-Star at the age of 23. Saltalamacchia has under 150 ML at bats and is 22 years old. Again, exactly how does that make Salty better than McCann right now?

McCizoy · 08-01-2007, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Soul

McCann is NOT as good as he was last year. Now that the scouts have figured him out he's come down to earth.

David Ortiz is NOT as good as he was last year.
Ryan Howard is NOT as good as he was last year.
Travis Hafner is NOT as good as he was last year.
Andruw Jones is NOT as good as he was last year.
Carlos Beltran is NOT as good as he was last year.
Jermaine Dye is NOT as good as he was last year.
Jason Bay is NOT as good as he was last year.

Did all these guys get 'figured' out too?

Nam Dekan · 08-01-2007, 06:27 PM

With Jason Bay being a Pirate I forget he exists sometime

Captain Crunch · 08-02-2007, 10:39 AM

Jason Bay More Than Likely Will Get Traded.....Texiera is the best 1B Atlanta has had in a while,LaRoche was obviously a 1 seaso

07-30-2007, 07:03 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mask2MyFace2 Controversial Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: I Dont See Your Name....I See Your dumb ass comment Posts: 5,522	At least Atlanta did something right They traded to get Mark Teixiera, an all-star. Smart move since we haven't done anything in free agency or trading since never we just let people go to other teams and be all-stars without trying to sign them back and let legends just waltz out the door and win 300 games without contract negotiations. I say we get to the playoffs now...and when we get there we won't lose in the first round. Braves making moves especially with the inevitablity of the Mike Vick situation (they bout to throw the book at him...tell him to read it...Tony Taylor you motherfucker...shit) with the Falcons and Joey Harrington. It will be a miracle if we win 3 games this year, and the Hawks still being amongst the worst teams in the NBA ( why we couldn't get the #2 instead of the #3? bullshit). __________________ "I swear it don't cost much to pay attention to me" Andre 3000 "I jack, I rob, I sin, ah man, I'm Jackie Robinson, except when I run base I dodge the pen" Jay-Z

07-30-2007, 07:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
Old Soul Nipple Nibbler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: I'll stay below the surface, breaking bread with worms. It's depravity, not gravity, that anchors flesh to Earth......... Los Angeles, CA Posts: 27,037	Also traded Kyle Davies for Octavio Dotel and they're looking @ Bronson fuckin Arroyo lol A franchise catcher is 5x more valuable than a franchise 1B, though. Saltalamacchia > Texeira by a good margin, actually. __________________ The venom is inside of me, the reason Greece is fallin to pieces The whole world's callin for Jesus And I'll let him take a strike or three Then crush his skull with a tree from the Garden of Eden I know he has a high threshold for pain So I'll tie him to a bull's tail and drag his flesh over Spain An equisite work of art I'll drop his head at the Louvre I'm impossible to stop once I get in a groove

07-30-2007, 09:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
McCizoy I got stripes! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The Triad Posts: 7,509	but McCann is better than Saltalamacchia so it makes trading him away less painful. I like the trade but it sucks knowing Teixeia is going to definitely hit the free agent market after next season and the Braves probably won't sign him. And Kyle Davies fucking blows. Hopefully this is the move to get Wickman out of the closer role. __________________ WAKE Here's a towel wipe your face cool down have a drink its on me

07-31-2007, 08:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
Old Soul Nipple Nibbler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: I'll stay below the surface, breaking bread with worms. It's depravity, not gravity, that anchors flesh to Earth......... Los Angeles, CA Posts: 27,037	Salty's better than McCann. If not for McCann's season last year, he'd have been on the block. __________________ The venom is inside of me, the reason Greece is fallin to pieces The whole world's callin for Jesus And I'll let him take a strike or three Then crush his skull with a tree from the Garden of Eden I know he has a high threshold for pain So I'll tie him to a bull's tail and drag his flesh over Spain An equisite work of art I'll drop his head at the Louvre I'm impossible to stop once I get in a groove

07-31-2007, 09:11 PM	#9 (permalink)
McCizoy I got stripes! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The Triad Posts: 7,509	he might end up being better yeah but right now he's not anywhere in McCann's stratosphere. Basically what you're saying is if McCann wasn't so good he'd get traded instead. They had 2 potential elite catchers and they decided to keep the one that has already established himself in the majors. Plus McCann is only a year older than than Salty. If the Braves actually sign Teixeira before he's up after next season than it'll end up being a great deal in favor of the Braves. I'm actually more upset about the other guys in the deal than I am Salty. __________________ WAKE Here's a towel wipe your face cool down have a drink its on me

07-30-2007, 11:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
wilmer deryou Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,407	i dont get texas sure u got a GOOD catcher( who i wanted the red sox to make a run at for the future)..BUT U NEED PITCHING!! THE CENTER PIECE OF A DEAL SHOULDA BEEN Starting Pitching... blah ..wuteva salty is gonna be good..but ur changing a good catcher for an all star first baseman..should got all pitching!

08-01-2007, 04:00 PM	#11 (permalink)
Old Soul Nipple Nibbler Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: I'll stay below the surface, breaking bread with worms. It's depravity, not gravity, that anchors flesh to Earth......... Los Angeles, CA Posts: 27,037	Look @ McCann's minor league #'s http://thebaseballcube.com/players/M/Brian-McCann.shtml Last year was an anomaly and now he's coming back down to earth. His #'s this year basically mirror not only his minor league averages, but also Salty's line. Salty's minor league #'s http://thebaseballcube.com/players/S...amacchia.shtml Undeniably better. McCann 2007: 263/315/448/763 Salty: 284/333/411/744 __________________ The venom is inside of me, the reason Greece is fallin to pieces The whole world's callin for Jesus And I'll let him take a strike or three Then crush his skull with a tree from the Garden of Eden I know he has a high threshold for pain So I'll tie him to a bull's tail and drag his flesh over Spain An equisite work of art I'll drop his head at the Louvre I'm impossible to stop once I get in a groove Last edited by Old Soul; 08-01-2007 at 04:01 PM.

08-01-2007, 05:42 PM	#13 (permalink)
McCizoy I got stripes! Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: The Triad Posts: 7,509	Haha you tell me that Salty is better than McCann and to prove your point...you bring up minor league numbers. What's also funny is you're using McCann's numbers this year (3/4 of the year actually) to disregard McCann's first full season. Why is this year what Atlanta is going to get from McCann from this point on and not what happened last year. Maybe this year is the anomaly. You have heard of the sophomore slump right? But anyway back to the main point, McCann is a 2 time All-Star at the age of 23. Saltalamacchia has under 150 ML at bats and is 22 years old. Again, exactly how does that make Salty better than McCann right now? __________________ WAKE Here's a towel wipe your face cool down have a drink its on me

08-01-2007, 06:27 PM	#15 (permalink)
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08-02-2007, 10:39 AM	#16 (permalink)
Captain Crunch Money:Long Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Baltimore Posts: 6,052	*Jason Bay More Than Likely Will Get Traded.....Texiera is the best 1B Atlanta has had in a while,LaRoche was obviously a 1 seaso*