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Old 05-31-2007, 10:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Lmfao @ mentioning the Spurs in the same sentence with the Chicago Bulls

I mean damn ESPN find something new to talk about.

The Spurs are NOT a dynasty.

4 titles (if they win this year) in 8, 9 years or whatever is not a fuckin dynasty.

Look at the champions since 1999... IF they win this year.

1999: Spurs*
2000: Lakers
2001: Lakers
2002: Lakers
2003: Spurs
2004: Pistons
2005: Spurs
2006: Heat
2007: Spurs*

*= Tainted championship

Anyways, they don't even have a back-to-back title in their reign. They've been a great team of the decade but there was only one dynasty and it was led by Shaq and Kobe.
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Dynasty status isn't just measured by NBA championships, tho... which is why the last championship Laker squad isn't a true dynasty... if they are, they're the fakest one of them all... the Braves of the '90s are considered a dynasty even though they won one WS... their division and league titles are counted as well.
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And even counting championships alone, the Spurs are more of a dynasty than the last Lakers squad.
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I think it depends on the definition of dynasty. Some people only use the term if they won so many championships over a certain amount of time or it could be considered dominance and being good for so long. Like the Atlanta Braves were, 15 division titles in 16 years. 5 WS appearances, 1 WS win.

A definition of dynasty is, "a powerful group or family that maintains its position for a considerable time."

It depends on the interpretation though I guess...
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lmao

might as well put a * next to the lakers titles..

00- tim duncan missed the playoffs
02- refs cheat the kings


the spurs arent in the same league as the bulls but then again only a couple teams are..

however tim duncan is in a class by himself.. hes done more with less help than just about any bball player..
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might as well put a * next to the lakers titles..

00- tim duncan missed the playoffs
02- refs cheat the kings


the spurs arent in the same league as the bulls but then again only a couple teams are..

however tim duncan is in a class by himself.. hes done more with less help than just about any bball player..

Less help? Manu? Parker? Finley? Poppavich? Horry? (Whos bailed them out in countless supposed to losses), Bowen? (who irritates any team he plays) Brent Barry? (Who was consistent at one time) David fucking robinson?


In comparison to a shaq and kobe with the couple mediocre bums they've had?

Do you even watch basketball? You couldnt ask for any more help rofl
What start player has more help than that ROFL.

i know duncans a great player, but you must be out your damn mind.

You erase any one of those guys from most seasons and your chances of winning it all or getting back to the finals significantly decreases.

Whether it be point purposes, aggressive purposes, Clutch or defense purposes. They a complete team for a reason, not cause of tim buncan

Hes the leader of course, but that doesnt mean he can do anything alone.

as much help as he had if you're making him out to be as good as u say, minus the year he sat out of the playoffs he should have won it all every single year. Not 3 out of 8 or 9
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^^

Who was their pg back in 99?

Avery frickin Johnson. Who else was on that squad.

A David Robinson in his twilight.

Can you come up with any other players?

...Sean Elliot was a quality player.

That's it.

Tim Duncan and other role players, like a Mario Elie.

Alright, now in 03?

Parker... but this is the raw Parker, who doesn't know how to do anything but get his own points and has speed.

If Speedy Claxton didn't replace him in game 5&6 in the WCF the Spurs never make it the the Finals.

Kerr? Talk about past his prime. But he came up big one game, and it was enough.

Who else... Stephen Jackson. He was fearless back then, but was feast or famine.

Recognize these names?

Derek Anderson, Antonio Daniels... fucking Cherokee Parker?? Oh that's right they aren't allstars.


05 - Duncan had Manu, Parker, Horry, Bowen....... Nazr Mohammed, Rasho???

Lol.. We picked up Horry after the Lakers cast him aside. Beno Udrih as our back up Pg? Sean Marks? Yes this squad is filled with high caliber talent.


07 - Finley just joined the squad last year, and you gonna act like he's helped the Spurs win all these championships.

The Spurs are playing with an an entirely new front court than they did in 05!


Tim Duncan has won with 3 Different teams, and mainly with role players and upcoming talent.

He had David Robinson at the end of his career.

Tony Parker at the start of his and Manu in the middle of his.

That's it! What other all-star players has he had, or great talents? (and no not former all-stars, I'm talking about having an all-star year at the time).


The only constant is Tim Duncan, year after year they just keep plugging players around him and the Spurs keep winning championships. He makes his teamates better by his presence.

Is it any coincidence that the Spurs have the highest winning percentage of any major profesional sports team since he arrived???

He anchors the defense, controls the paint which allows perimeter defenders to be more aggresive, cuz they know TD is back there to clean up the mess.

The offense in the past ran entirely through him. Its only lately with the motion offense and the acquisition of guards that can get into the lane have the Spurs become more versatile on offense. But when it gets down to crunch time, they always throw it to Duncan, and either he takes it the rim, or kicks it out to an open shooter.

Tim Duncan is the Spurs.

Stop talkiing out of your ass. You know nothing.
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The Spurs are not a dynasty...

The lakers are a great example of a dynasty... whoever thinks otherwise is just hating... 3-peating equals AUTOMATIC dynasy status!!... you can't even debate that... shit back to back championships equals a dynasty... matter of fact... I can only think of ONE dyansty EVER who didn't win back to back titles.... back to back is basically teh dynasy requirement...

LMAO@ the dude who wanted to put an asterick next to teh lakers championship because "tim duncan missed the playoffs"... thats hilarious bullshit!
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.4 is bullshit.

And if Shaq missed the playoffs a season, you think the Lakers are sporting bling?

C'mon man.
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Who was their pg back in 99?

Avery frickin Johnson. Who else was on that squad.

A David Robinson in his twilight.

Can you come up with any other players?

...Sean Elliot was a quality player.

That's it.

Tim Duncan and other role players, like a Mario Elie.

Alright, now in 03?

Parker... but this is the raw Parker, who doesn't know how to do anything but get his own points and has speed.

If Speedy Claxton didn't replace him in game 5&6 in the WCF the Spurs never make it the the Finals.

Kerr? Talk about past his prime. But he came up big one game, and it was enough.

Who else... Stephen Jackson. He was fearless back then, but was feast or famine.

Recognize these names?

Derek Anderson, Antonio Daniels... fucking Cherokee Parker?? Oh that's right they aren't allstars.


05 - Duncan had Manu, Parker, Horry, Bowen....... Nazr Mohammed, Rasho???

Lol.. We picked up Horry after the Lakers cast him aside. Beno Udrih as our back up Pg? Sean Marks? Yes this squad is filled with high caliber talent.


07 - Finley just joined the squad last year, and you gonna act like he's helped the Spurs win all these championships.

The Spurs are playing with an an entirely new front court than they did in 05!


Tim Duncan has won with 3 Different teams, and mainly with role players and upcoming talent.

He had David Robinson at the end of his career.

Tony Parker at the start of his and Manu in the middle of his.

That's it! What other all-star players has he had, or great talents? (and no not former all-stars, I'm talking about having an all-star year at the time).


The only constant is Tim Duncan, year after year they just keep plugging players around him and the Spurs keep winning championships. He makes his teamates better by his presence.

Is it any coincidence that the Spurs have the highest winning percentage of any major profesional sports team since he arrived???

He anchors the defense, controls the paint which allows perimeter defenders to be more aggresive, cuz they know TD is back there to clean up the mess.

The offense in the past ran entirely through him. Its only lately with the motion offense and the acquisition of guards that can get into the lane have the Spurs become more versatile on offense. But when it gets down to crunch time, they always throw it to Duncan, and either he takes it the rim, or kicks it out to an open shooter.

Tim Duncan is the Spurs.

Stop talkiing out of your ass. You know nothing.
Bullshit, Manu Should have been the mvp of your last fucking championship, thats how much he carried you in the finals, not to mention how much parker is helping right now.

You telling me without either parker or manu you'd be even talked about winning This whole thing? or finley for that matter?

And kerr? johnson? who the fuck said anything about them chumps? (although avery wasnt bad for your squad)

And you answered the question for me with the speedy claxton comment, you dont replace him with parker, u lose, Now that doesnt sound like to me duncan has no help does it? which parker didnt come through that series, but he showed up fine for others.

Say your bullshit fantasies all you want, im not saying you have 5 all stars on your fucking team.

But every year you've won the championship you've had quality players in most if not all aspects, not just tim fucking Duncan. Saying he has less help than any other star is the most ludacris statement ive ever seen in my life. Not to mention having the greatest coach to arguably ever coach the game in most aspects. You know zero.

Tim duncan couldnt do what lebron james does. He has to have solid people peforming in other positions, mainly ones who dont turn the ball over and come up with consistent offense and killer defense, which Bowen also does who you failed to mention. You must be one of those guys who thinks tim duncan and the spurs win all the games with offense or something huh? Rofl. They're mainly a defense squad, and hes already had alot of defensive support as well as on the offensive end.

Most people thought he getting the MVP over ginobli the last finals they won was completely ludacris, i bet you dont remember that though huh? Must have not had any help that year either.

You take away a parker, a ginobli or a defensive pest like bowen, and the doors fall wide open for another team such as the suns, ect to expose you. Hell, you take away a horry (which you wouldnt have won your last finals with) or a finley this year, i dont give you much of a chance neither.

Horry dont do jack shit, but he bails you out of alot of near losses, As a player he sucks, but in the clutch hes key. How many winning shots has he hit to earn all his rings in championships? Including yours?

You're talking out your pussy.

And i almost forgot sean elliot, thanks for naming me even MORE help lol.

No help, pfft, must be fucking delusional..Any squad with his help would have the best chance at winning it

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@ cigma...

you listed the players so I don't understand your biasness...lol... you really going to say that David Robinson (one of the best centers in the league at the time, Sean Elliot(one of the best small forwards at the time), Avery johnson (very solid) and Mario Ellie (great role player with EXCELLENT experience winning titles with Houston) to go with Duncan is not a GREAT line- up...lol... thats crazy... but that season was the short season anyway so who cares other than Spurs fans...
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Less help? Manu? Parker? Finley? Poppavich? Horry? (Whos bailed them out in countless supposed to losses), Bowen? (who irritates any team he plays) Brent Barry? (Who was consistent at one time) David fucking robinson?
lmao.. if i must?? drob was 32-33, coming off an injury, when duncan was a rookie lol.. finley, barry, and horry were all past their primes when they joined the spurs.. bowen was a nobody before coming to the spurs.. just like stephen jackson, he was a player that bounced around countires looking for a team.. manu and parker are the 2 players hes had in their primes and neither is a great player.. good but not on some HOF shit.. not to mention parker no shows the playoffs.

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In comparison to a shaq and kobe with the couple mediocre bums they've had?
lmao.. kobe >> manu/parker.. not even close
d fisher is a solid 3rd or ••h option.. they had glen rice for their first title, another solid contributer.. malone and payton?? rick fox and bowen are pretty similiar.. they also had horry at a younger age..

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Do you even watch basketball? You couldnt ask for any more help rofl
What start player has more help than that ROFL.
more like do u?? whos had more help?? gee where do i start.. how bout magic johnson?? he had kareem and worthy.. bird had mchale, parrish, walton.. jordan had pippen, rodman, kukoc.. bill russell had a stcked team that included cousy, havlicek, sam jones etc.. karl malone had stockton, hornacek, dpoy mark eaton..

shaq has had penny, kobe, and now wade..
steve nash has played with kidd??, amare, finley, dirk
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i know duncans a great player, but you must be out your damn mind.

You erase any one of those guys from most seasons and your chances of winning it all or getting back to the finals significantly decreases.

Whether it be point purposes, aggressive purposes, Clutch or defense purposes. They a complete team for a reason, not cause of tim buncan
no u just dont watch enough or the right basketball.. they said duncan couldnt win without drob.. well hes already proved that wrong and is about to add another.. he won a title before parker and manu were on the team.. in case u havent realized it hes the only constant on those championship teams..
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Hes the leader of course, but that doesnt mean he can do anything alone.

as much help as he had if you're making him out to be as good as u say, minus the year he sat out of the playoffs he should have won it all every single year. Not 3 out of 8 or 9
and look at how close hes come with no help.. hes going to his ••h finals.. last yr we lost to the mavs cus manu fouled dirk on some dumb shit.. he doesnt commit the foul, we go to the finals last yr.. how bout that BS .04 shot by derek fisher??

he was 2 plays from going to 6 finals.. like i said give him some of the help alot of other players have had an he'll win it every yr...

the only player that has been in duncans way was shaq and thats cus he had the better 2nd option..
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.4 is bullshit.

And if Shaq missed the playoffs a season, you think the Lakers are sporting bling?

C'mon man.

I refuse to base my opinion off of assumptions... all I know is what happened... and what happened is sorry ass derek fisher made a shot to win teh game in .4 seconds... what happened is duncan was too gimpy to play in the playoffs while shaq (like he ususally does) saved his self for the playoffs... what happened was the lakers winning 3 straight championships... to say they are not a dynasty is ignorant... to say the spurs are more of a dynasty than them is even more ignorant than that...
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