Tim Duncans career >> Nash, Tobe, Tmac, AI, Dirk

toker · 03-31-2007, 04:01 PM

anybody wanna try to dispute this??

how can tobe be better than jordan, the greatest basketball player ever, when hes not even on tim duncans level??

nash, ai, and tmac dont even come close.. duncans been to more finals than all three of these clowns combined.. the only thing u people can say is they score alot lol..

check this shit out.. (built for the long run)
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=270330024

they show a stat about the spurs since duncans been on the team.. 9 straight 50 win seasons putting the spurs in the same breath as the legendary 50-60 Celtics, 80 Celtics, and 80s Lakers.. thats greatest right there..

what makes it even better is the fact that those teams were stacked.. the best duncan had was an aging Drob.. the supporting casts arent even close..

he has 2 Mvps but should have more.. 3 finals mvps, only other players that can say that are shaq, jordan and magic.

is there anybody as good as him on both sides of the court, hell no!! heres your proof..

Only player in NBA history to receive All-NBA and All-Defensive honors in his first 9 seasons (1998-2006)

cant forget that fact that hes the best defensive player in the game.. fuck all that ben wallace talk, guys overrated.. theres a reason why the spurs are constantly top 5 in defense since duncan came along..

won ROy and has been a allstar since he came into the league

guy has it all..

just something to think about when u kids discuss your overrated wingman

shaq is the only person that should be mentioned along with duncan

is he boring?? probably but hes still alot better than the rest of the pack

he keeps up the pace and he'll probably end up top 5 ever.. easily top 10

Ethan Albright · 03-31-2007, 06:35 PM

LMAO

.....nobody cares about tim duncan.

Iceodu921 · 03-31-2007, 06:45 PM

this falls under the no shit category..

you can make a compelling agruement hes had a better career then shaq as well.

Ethan Albright · 03-31-2007, 06:54 PM

But he's still just Tim Duncan. A boring big man that excites no one but spurs fans.

Kobe = 3x's more athletic and truly skilled.

Iceodu921 · 03-31-2007, 07:24 PM

who cares if he wins?

toker · 03-31-2007, 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethan Albright

But he's still just Tim Duncan. A boring big man that excites no one but spurs fans.

Kobe = 3x's more athletic and truly skilled.

i could care less if tobe is more athletic

duncans career >>>>>>>> tobes

ha!

iLL Rich · 03-31-2007, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceodu921

who cares if he wins?

you must be confused about what competitive sports are about

the Prince · 03-31-2007, 08:40 PM

timothy duncan

Pyro Tecknik · 03-31-2007, 09:06 PM

tim who?

absolute zero · 03-31-2007, 11:36 PM

lmao @ whoever said he was boring.

What the fuck does that have to do with someone's worth to the sport and greatness? Just because he doesn't scream and pump his fists in the air every time he gets the bucket and the foul doesn't NOT put him in the arguement for one of the all time greats.

Dude wins. Wins.

Hardkore the MC · 04-01-2007, 10:48 AM

y'all act like kobe ain't drop 20+ points per game when shaq was on the team and contributed to their championship success. remember penny was on shaq's team when the magic went to the 'ship (but lost) and shaq also had somebody by the name of dwyane wade on his team when the heat won the championship.

Ethan Albright · 04-01-2007, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by absolute zero

lmao @ whoever said he was boring.

What the fuck does that have to do with someone's worth to the sport and greatness? Just because he doesn't scream and pump his fists in the air every time he gets the bucket and the foul doesn't NOT put him in the arguement for one of the all time greats.

Dude wins. Wins.

No. Not just because he doesn't "pump his fists in the air" when he scores. Because he never takes a difficult shot. He never does anything other than fade aways and flat-footers.

.....his game is memorized. He could do it without even looking at the goal. He does nothing impressive.

And he fades into oblivion when games are on the line. And that's why he's boring.

toker · 04-01-2007, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethan Albright

And he fades into oblivion when games are on the line. And that's why he's boring.

more like tobe disappears in the playoffs..

2004 finals vs the pistons:
g1- 10/27 25 points
g2- 14/27 33 pts
g3- 4/13 11 pts
g4- 8/25 20 pts
g5- 7/21 24pts

avg- 22.6 pts on 8.6/22.6 shooting or 38%

toker · 04-01-2007, 08:42 PM

more tobe letdowns in the playoffs

04 vs the rockets.. (lakers win)

g1- 4/19 16pts
g2- 9/20 36 pts
g3- 7/20 21pts
g4- 7/21 18pts
g5- 12/21 31pts

avg- 24.4 pts on roughly 40% (39.7%)

04 vs the twolves- (lakers win)

g1- 9/20 23 pts
g2- 10/24 27pts
g3- 5/12 22pts
g4- 10/24 31pts
g5- 8/19 23pts
g6- 6/17 20pts

avg- 24.3 pts on 41%

*his shooting % is down from the regular season where it was roughly 44% (43.6%)..*

*for the 02-03 regular season tobe was shooting 45%.. here are the playoff numbers *

03 vs the twolves (lakers win)

g1- 16/30 39pts
g2- 9/28 27pts
g3- 10/28 30pts
g4- 7/25 32pts
g5- 12/21 32pts
g6- 14/26 31pts

avg = 31.8 pts on 43%

03 vs spurs- (lakers lose)
g1- 16/38 37pts
g2- 9/24 27pts
g3- 10/23 39pts
g4- 10/24 35pts
g5- 15/31 36pts
g6- 9/19 20pts

avg= 32.3 pts on 43%

2nd yr in a row where his shooting % is down..

*in the 01-02 season tobe was shooting @ 47%*

02 playoffs vs blazers (lakers win)

g1- 10/28 34pts
g2- 5/21 19pts
g3- 9/19 25pts

avg= 26pts on 35% shooting!!!

02 vs spurs (lakers win)

g1- 8/18 20pts
g2- 12/25 26pts
g3- 15/31 31pts
g4- 10/27 28pts
g5- 10/20 26 pts

avg= 26.2 pts on 45% shooting

02 vs kings- (lakers win)

g1- 12/26 30pts
g2- 9/21 22pts
g3- 8/24 22pts
g4- 12/26 25pts
g5- 11/29 30pts
g6- 10/20 31pts
g7- 10/26 30pts

avg= 27.1 pts on roughly 42% (41.8%)

02 finals vs nets- (lakers win)
g1- 6/16 22pts
g2- 9/15 24pts
g3- 14/23 36pts
g4- 7/16 25pts

avg= 26.8 pts on 51%!!!!!!
notice how he has his best shooting % wise when he isnt jacking up 30 shots a game and playing his role as 2nd fiddle to shaq..

tobe= role player

Pyro Tecknik · 04-02-2007, 12:43 PM

you mean when he isn't forced to play 2nd fiddle to shaq...kobe was not going to go against the zen master's strategy.

Iceodu921 · 04-02-2007, 02:16 PM

kobe went against phils strategy's many times what are you talking about? Kobe choked away the series last year without shaq so whats your excuse for that.

and rippy htf does Duncan fades? Please tell me he has 3 rings and 3 finals mvp you cant honestly be that dumb.

Pyro Tecknik · 04-02-2007, 02:39 PM

not when it counted...and never completely. he even said he would fall back and sacrifice his role/shots(stats)...for the championship.

last year? fuck last year...how is that relevant to anything being said in this thread. kobe was the team(at still is to a lesser extent this year), there was no strategy to win a championship last year.

03-31-2007, 04:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
toker STRAIN WHORE Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Im an 80s baby, Damn Right I Hustle Posts: 5,710	Tim Duncans career >> Nash, Tobe, Tmac, AI, Dirk anybody wanna try to dispute this?? how can tobe be better than jordan, the greatest basketball player ever, when hes not even on tim duncans level?? nash, ai, and tmac dont even come close.. duncans been to more finals than all three of these clowns combined.. the only thing u people can say is they score alot lol.. check this shit out.. (built for the long run) http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=270330024 they show a stat about the spurs since duncans been on the team.. 9 straight 50 win seasons putting the spurs in the same breath as the legendary 50-60 Celtics, 80 Celtics, and 80s Lakers.. thats greatest right there.. what makes it even better is the fact that those teams were stacked.. the best duncan had was an aging Drob.. the supporting casts arent even close.. he has 2 Mvps but should have more.. 3 finals mvps, only other players that can say that are shaq, jordan and magic. is there anybody as good as him on both sides of the court, hell no!! heres your proof.. Only player in NBA history to receive All-NBA and All-Defensive honors in his first 9 seasons (1998-2006) cant forget that fact that hes the best defensive player in the game.. fuck all that ben wallace talk, guys overrated.. theres a reason why the spurs are constantly top 5 in defense since duncan came along.. won ROy and has been a allstar since he came into the league guy has it all.. just something to think about when u kids discuss your overrated wingman shaq is the only person that should be mentioned along with duncan is he boring?? probably but hes still alot better than the rest of the pack he keeps up the pace and he'll probably end up top 5 ever.. easily top 10 __________________ All Posts From This IP Address Are Fictional And For Entertainment Purposes Only. The Poster Claims No Ownership To Any Pictures Or Stories Stated.

03-31-2007, 06:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ethan Albright Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,327	LMAO .....nobody cares about tim duncan. __________________ Michigan = Out. but... Georgia Tech is still kicking. Go Buzz.

03-31-2007, 06:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ethan Albright Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,327	But he's still just Tim Duncan. A boring big man that excites no one but spurs fans. Kobe = 3x's more athletic and truly skilled. __________________ Michigan = Out. but... Georgia Tech is still kicking. Go Buzz.

03-31-2007, 09:06 PM	#9 (permalink)
Pyro Tecknik Harbinger of Doom Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: En mi infierno y paraiso al mismo tiempo Posts: 22,602	tim who? __________________ You belong in Special Ed if you think you Got It Made - J-Live with the mic is like the chef with the blade - Cause suckers get sliced and sauteed - Yeah, you thought your joint was fly but the flight was delayed... Cause yo, I take the grey matter of pretenders - through my mental blender, and then return to sender - My pen don't pretend to offend - I intend to render MC's, hangin loose like a fender bender - I recommend regardless of your gender - That you strike messin with J-Live from your agenda - And remember that whoever lends a helpin hand to defend ya - Will get burned to a cinder - As I end the reign of wack MC's with their suicidal tendencies - Renderin me sick, with the thoughts of killin enemies - But then I return to reality - Metaphorically murderin MC's when they battle me - You can't rattle me - I'm not your average snake slitherin through the grass - I surpass the serpent as I head to class - You consider me crass as I wax that ass - Style's no joke, but you best believe I gets the last laugh

03-31-2007, 11:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
absolute zero I got id. Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: NO NO NO Posts: 7,189	lmao @ whoever said he was boring. What the fuck does that have to do with someone's worth to the sport and greatness? Just because he doesn't scream and pump his fists in the air every time he gets the bucket and the foul doesn't NOT put him in the arguement for one of the all time greats. Dude wins. Wins. __________________ They say money changes you but money don't change you it just makes you more of what you already are.

03-31-2007, 06:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
Iceodu921 Resident Sports Genius Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: wit ur girl Posts: 6,284	this falls under the no shit category.. you can make a compelling agruement hes had a better career then shaq as well.

03-31-2007, 07:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
Iceodu921 Resident Sports Genius Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: wit ur girl Posts: 6,284	who cares if he wins?

03-31-2007, 08:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
the Prince - Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 7,788	timothy duncan

04-01-2007, 10:48 AM	#11 (permalink)
Hardkore the MC myspace.com/hardkore954 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL. Posts: 11,369	y'all act like kobe ain't drop 20+ points per game when shaq was on the team and contributed to their championship success. remember penny was on shaq's team when the magic went to the 'ship (but lost) and shaq also had somebody by the name of dwyane wade on his team when the heat won the championship. __________________ HTTP://WWW.SOUNDCLICK.COM/HARDKOREPRODUCTIONS $50 exclusives and $10 leases. "Heeey, I do it way bigger than you did it, I'm sittin' on them Jordans, must be the shoes, init?" - Weez.

04-01-2007, 08:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
toker STRAIN WHORE Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Im an 80s baby, Damn Right I Hustle Posts: 5,710	more tobe letdowns in the playoffs 04 vs the rockets.. (lakers win) g1- 4/19 16pts g2- 9/20 36 pts g3- 7/20 21pts g4- 7/21 18pts g5- 12/21 31pts avg- 24.4 pts on roughly 40% (39.7%) 04 vs the twolves- (lakers win) g1- 9/20 23 pts g2- 10/24 27pts g3- 5/12 22pts g4- 10/24 31pts g5- 8/19 23pts g6- 6/17 20pts avg- 24.3 pts on 41% his shooting % is down from the regular season where it was roughly 44% (43.6%).. for the 02-03 regular season tobe was shooting 45%.. here are the playoff numbers 03 vs the twolves (lakers win) g1- 16/30 39pts g2- 9/28 27pts g3- 10/28 30pts g4- 7/25 32pts g5- 12/21 32pts g6- 14/26 31pts avg = 31.8 pts on 43% 03 vs spurs- (lakers lose) g1- 16/38 37pts g2- 9/24 27pts g3- 10/23 39pts g4- 10/24 35pts g5- 15/31 36pts g6- 9/19 20pts avg= 32.3 pts on 43% 2nd yr in a row where his shooting % is down.. in the 01-02 season tobe was shooting @ 47% 02 playoffs vs blazers (lakers win) g1- 10/28 34pts g2- 5/21 19pts g3- 9/19 25pts avg= 26pts on 35% shooting!!! 02 vs spurs (lakers win) g1- 8/18 20pts g2- 12/25 26pts g3- 15/31 31pts g4- 10/27 28pts g5- 10/20 26 pts avg= 26.2 pts on 45% shooting 02 vs kings- (lakers win) g1- 12/26 30pts g2- 9/21 22pts g3- 8/24 22pts g4- 12/26 25pts g5- 11/29 30pts g6- 10/20 31pts g7- 10/26 30pts avg= 27.1 pts on roughly 42% (41.8%) 02 finals vs nets- (lakers win) g1- 6/16 22pts g2- 9/15 24pts g3- 14/23 36pts g4- 7/16 25pts avg= 26.8 pts on 51%!!!!!! notice how he has his best shooting % wise when he isnt jacking up 30 shots a game and playing his role as 2nd fiddle to shaq.. tobe= role player __________________ All Posts From This IP Address Are Fictional And For Entertainment Purposes Only. The Poster Claims No Ownership To Any Pictures Or Stories Stated.

04-02-2007, 12:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
Pyro Tecknik Harbinger of Doom Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: En mi infierno y paraiso al mismo tiempo Posts: 22,602	you mean when he isn't forced to play 2nd fiddle to shaq...kobe was not going to go against the zen master's strategy. __________________ You belong in Special Ed if you think you Got It Made - J-Live with the mic is like the chef with the blade - Cause suckers get sliced and sauteed - Yeah, you thought your joint was fly but the flight was delayed... Cause yo, I take the grey matter of pretenders - through my mental blender, and then return to sender - My pen don't pretend to offend - I intend to render MC's, hangin loose like a fender bender - I recommend regardless of your gender - That you strike messin with J-Live from your agenda - And remember that whoever lends a helpin hand to defend ya - Will get burned to a cinder - As I end the reign of wack MC's with their suicidal tendencies - Renderin me sick, with the thoughts of killin enemies - But then I return to reality - Metaphorically murderin MC's when they battle me - You can't rattle me - I'm not your average snake slitherin through the grass - I surpass the serpent as I head to class - You consider me crass as I wax that ass - Style's no joke, but you best believe I gets the last laugh Last edited by Pyro Tecknik; 04-02-2007 at 01:12 PM.

04-02-2007, 02:16 PM	#16 (permalink)
Iceodu921 Resident Sports Genius Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: wit ur girl Posts: 6,284	kobe went against phils strategy's many times what are you talking about? Kobe choked away the series last year without shaq so whats your excuse for that. and rippy htf does Duncan fades? Please tell me he has 3 rings and 3 finals mvp you cant honestly be that dumb.

04-02-2007, 02:39 PM	#17 (permalink)
Pyro Tecknik Harbinger of Doom Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: En mi infierno y paraiso al mismo tiempo Posts: 22,602	not when it counted...and never completely. he even said he would fall back and sacrifice his role/shots(stats)...for the championship. last year? fuck last year...how is that relevant to anything being said in this thread. kobe was the team(at still is to a lesser extent this year), there was no strategy to win a championship last year. __________________ You belong in Special Ed if you think you Got It Made - J-Live with the mic is like the chef with the blade - Cause suckers get sliced and sauteed - Yeah, you thought your joint was fly but the flight was delayed... Cause yo, I take the grey matter of pretenders - through my mental blender, and then return to sender - My pen don't pretend to offend - I intend to render MC's, hangin loose like a fender bender - I recommend regardless of your gender - That you strike messin with J-Live from your agenda - And remember that whoever lends a helpin hand to defend ya - Will get burned to a cinder - As I end the reign of wack MC's with their suicidal tendencies - Renderin me sick, with the thoughts of killin enemies - But then I return to reality - Metaphorically murderin MC's when they battle me - You can't rattle me - I'm not your average snake slitherin through the grass - I surpass the serpent as I head to class - You consider me crass as I wax that ass - Style's no joke, but you best believe I gets the last laugh

04-02-2007, 03:45 PM	#18 (permalink)
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