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Old 07-16-2005, 12:23 AM   #1 (permalink)
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since everyone makes 'em, i got three "best" questions...

who do you consider the best seller(s) in recent memory? that is, what wrestler(s) sold their opponents move accurately and vividly, making the move and the opponent look great every time?

who do you consider the best innovator(s)? not necesarily just moves, but on the mic, or even using weapons. who showed you something new and impressive on a fairly regular basis?

what match series do you remember being of the utmost quality, worthy of a dvd collection on their own?

i'll fill in my answers after a few responses, but i already have my opinions formulated.
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Best Sellers (recent):

1) Shelton Benjamin
2) Randy Orton
3) Kurt Angle

Best Innovators:

1) Mick Foley
2) Stone Cold Steve Austin
3) Tommy Dreamer

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dvd worthy collection..hmmm

wasnt really a series of matches between the two, but Raven had a lot of matches with the New Church and Shane Douglas and Vampiro

Raven and Minister James Mitchell feud
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best seller is chris benoit hands down
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dvd worthy collection..hmmm

wasnt really a series of matches between the two, but Raven had a lot of matches with the New Church and Shane Douglas and Vampiro

Raven and Minister James Mitchell feud
Is raven tna champ now?

I haven't watched wrestling in forever, but I think I heard he was.
 
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Is raven tna champ now?

I haven't watched wrestling in forever, but I think I heard he was.

yeah he won the title last month
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Good stuff.

James Mitchell still in TNA?
 
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i have shawn michaels and rob van dam as two of my top sellers. just watching van dam on his dvd sell tommy dreamer's piledriver, literally bouncing up a good two feet before hitting the mat...beautiful. and there's no need for me to even begin with hbk.

for comedy, i like flair's sells, also.

innovators: nova, rob van dam, sabu, rey mysterio, the rock (mic work) and paul heyman (booking).

dvd match series: chris benoit and booker t, rey mysterio and psychosis, rob van dam and jerry lynn, shawn michaels and owen hart (not really a series, but any match they were in together was gold), and foley and triple h.
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Sellers - Benoit (perfect example is his match with Edge the night after Mania when he was still selling the arm injury.) Eddie, Regal, Jeff Hardy, HBK, HHH.

Innovators - AJ Styles, RVD, Christopher Daniels, basically all the X Division guys, Foley.

Match Series - RVD/Jerry Lynn, Angle/Benoit HHH/Foley, Benoit/Regal, Malenko/Rey
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i laughed my ass off when scott hall was selling the stunner

dude bounced half way across the ring
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Shawn Michaels in his prime was the biggest overseller of all time.

He'd take a punch to the face in the middle of the ring, run to the turnbuckle and do a ric flair flip, bounce off of the guardrail, piss himself, dive through the announcer's table, speak spanish, have sex with some random nasty fat chick, blade his forehead, and then return to the ring.
 
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Shawn Michaels in his prime was the biggest overseller of all time.

He'd take a punch to the face in the middle of the ring, run to the turnbuckle and do a ric flair flip, bounce off of the guardrail, piss himself, dive through the announcer's table, speak spanish, have sex with some random nasty fat chick, blade his forehead, and then return to the ring.

sounds like scott hall selling the stunner
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sounds like scott hall selling the stunner
Yeah.

Rock and John Cena also oversell. The Rock did it a lot more when he came back with the hollywood heel gimmick.
 
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