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Old 06-16-2008, 05:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 06-16-2008, 11:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Ay I need an extention i don't get home till 6pm east.. give me an extention and I'll have my verse up before 9p garunteed
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I'm inside the core of life,
The door will glide if pushed with forceful might,
Open it, and hopelessness pours its dye,
It'll leak to the hallways, and more, it dies,
Enter the room, feel heaven pursue,
Raise the windows, sit close, let it consume,
Feel the cool air invade your lungs,
And wonder how a soul can stay this young,
This notion, yes, so powerful,
So bloated, yet, so soundly grown,
When you, see the landscape, leave the man made,
You speak, and you teach, yet you keep your hand raised,
Work it, observe it, just search and sew,
Both the sun and the moon hate your curtains closed,
As the clouds make sounds for the world to dance to,
The light shows excite globes of pearl to glare though,
The natural world is a beautiful place,
To view it from space wouldn't do it its praise,
And when you, have a girl, it'll move you to change,
You'll lose all your pains inside who you became,
It's hard in life, to move on, switch,
All these nuanced twists could make you lost quick,
But everytime you get outside any true hardship,
You can look back and see all the new stars lit,
You don't hafta be a superhero, and try too hard,
Ain't nothin' new to Nero, we don't mind your faults,
You don't hafta be Jesus, but you don't hafta settle,
You don't hafta seem greedy, just ask the devil,
I'm only here to remind you, friend,
That in life, you never really find the end,
No prisons, or winning, no infinate sinning,
Only a strange sense of a different beginning,
That's why you're here, to venture again,
And you'll be, back again, eventually friend,
Just know that your soul is forever in infinance,
So your life, this time, can be whatever you wish it is,
We've changed many times, only to change back,
And now see that life isn't always the same path,
You've been up here a while, it truly is time,
To get back to Earth, and start pursuing your life...
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I remember when we walked & talked she couldn't get enough
in the days we was raised, but now its gettin' rough..
She told me bye, but the look in her eyes, said "see you later"
So we hugged, and I bounced toward the Elevator
We never made love but the the thoughts were still there...
Young in age, it fades at times, but Still here...
Now I think back, Rats used to think that,
Cats used to think we was wack but we winked back..
Cause the fact was, Different then others..
Same Jams, Same plans, same fam, but different mothers...
See,
Fast Forward, I was dippin' in black wit Grimy Boards
Came back,
but lost track of each other in 94'
Fast Forward even more, get poor...
"Make it all back".. Facts from the laws she taught..
She told me:
"If You make a couple bucks, better save it up"
"Cause ain't no face in this race just gonna Pay you bucks"
I Stay Stuck, thinkin' how Shaniece got rough..
Same age but the streets was beatin' her Up...
See..
we were both born I 1981.. With guns..
around us..
Play in the park? hear shots? Get down, duck!
But Her brother raised her up after her mother passed...
But he was lost in the game like them other cats....
A Hood life,
I know you heard this story..
When a good life is somthin that emerges poorly..
See,
All the lessons he taught her.. she taught me
Same age, from eleven to Twelve to fourteen..
But she was still my big sister on the other End
So I had to learn to protect her from the other men..
When I was in school some days, she was in the house
Packin' cracks & stacks, on her brothers couch
While I was learnin the lessons, the school taught
She was on the block learnin' bout life & new ports
Still..
she kept me from the game keepin me closed, bottled
Taught me to Pursue the Dreams we Both followed..
Still..
Lost touch after I bounced from the Buildin'
Heard stories bout her brother and the rats that killed him
Real... Trife..
life took me to the army and back..
Found out they got killed when the pharmacy Cracked
Wanted to live a different Life so she Forced a Brother
Same age, Same Dream.. Still, I lost a mother
Damn..

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this is a close call thing ..

Pain - this was cool .. however at times it felt a bit 'random' in the content .. it did have an almost continuing theme threading it together though so I see that randomness less intrusive on the read .. some decent rhyming and the flow wasn't too bad in general .. I enjoyed the read for the most part .. although I don't quite see the tie-in with pic .. but it is what it is .. good drop ..

Ven - I enjoyed this .. it was written well and so much so that I actually thought I was reading a 'true story' piece .. it flowed decently considering the structure which was a pleasent surprise .. what I enjoyed most about this verse was the emotional connection I got without you trying overly hard to apply it .. a trap some writers fall in to when attempting to convey emotion .. a good drop man ..

Vote = Venom .. a close call as I enjoyed reading both verses .. but I just got "in to" Venom's piece on an engaging level too .. good drops by both but the content that appealed to me most is where my votes goes ..
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This was very poetic man. Not overly poetic to the point of weirdly abstract; just the perfect amount. The problem with this one was that it wasn't as cohesive. You jumped around too often, never really giving a solid ground on what you're trying to say. There were hints and stuff but, ultimately what i get, is someone who spends most of his time dreaming, with his head in space. And, after much self lecture and motivation he finally realized he has to do something about it??? Well that's what i get from it.


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Very nice man. It was very fast pace. Despite the time shifts, i followed it pretty smoothly. This read like an homage and the sentimental property was well delivered. Wasns't too emo or callow with the execution and that's definitely a plus. overall, great piece.

my vote will got to Extreme Venom on the ground that his piece had a better grasp of direction. Everything was well planned out and the most important factor of all...it was a more ENJOYABLE read.
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Pain - like I get where you're going with this, but I feel as a topical it didn't connect enough to carry over as a strong piece, I think had you built this around a character that you developed a little you would have had this hands down, but I know you don't write for the votes, you write for yourself. With that said the flow was fire and I enjoyed the read.

Venny - good to see you back my dude...I know this piece is prolly very real and very raw to you, but I think you could have delivered the piece much better...like I found the read choppy with the flow not carrying over smooth and I think you could have transitioned better, explained certain things more...instead it was left as a vague hood tale, and though this one is personal for you, it reads like a lot of other hood tales that I've read/written many times over. For me it just felt like you could have won this, but you didn't bring your A game.

I know I'll prolly catch bitching for this but...

Vote = Pain.

I think his mechanics, his flow, and his content were stronger here where the elements in which a story usually outshines a topical (i.e. character development, progression, emotion) weren't really captured fully by Venny's piece as he left his piece more on the broad spectrum.
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Old 06-20-2008, 12:53 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Pain- Nice piece man. What I was diggin most about this was that it flowed so smoothly throughout the whole read and you weren't just using basic words. It kept me readin from the first line to the last without any choppiness to me. The imagery was on point. There were quite a few lines I was really diggin, like the Jesus and Devil line. These bars took it for me though:

The natural world is a beautiful place,
To view it from space wouldn't do it its praise,
And when you, have a girl, it'll move you to change,
You'll lose all your pains inside who you became

Definitely diggin this, man.

Extreme Venom- After reading your piece I'm feeling like this was a true story. Everything that happened seemed like it was real which I was definitely feeling. I got good imagery from this but some parts left me wondering. Like how you lose track of her in 94 and then you fast forward and she's tellin you things. Would've been helpful to me to know how many years went by when you talked to her again. Or if you're reminiscing of things she said to you before it would've made it clearer. That's all I felt was really missing from this piece.

My final vote is gonna go to Pain. I enjoyed his read more as it was very smooth and his imagery was vivid to me. Props to both Pain and Venom
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Fucken top rhythm and vocab dude.. well structured and delivered very fluent.. I think the story itself was pleasant dude with a nice tinge of dark with the devil drop.. My fav line in their the curtains line brought this whole image of the two trees being a portal to new worlds.. Man pretty tight drop

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Hey nice piece story wise not overly fresh but nicely developed and was an easy read.. Vocab to me was ok a lil meh but I think the slang on this would be hella tight for audio.. Structure wise not as tight as pains but still not all that bad.. Pretty cool piece though dude.

vote = pain

with the stronger imagery.. pz n gl
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this shit was ched, i can see how people would vote eitha way

on one side you got pain with some poetic, random thought slew of ideas that come together nicely all in one subtle topical with a story vibe to it .. the mechanics we ight not brilliantly put, the structure could use a little work, the vocab was coo, the rhyme scheme wasn't bad actually.. overall a coo read mayne keep doin u ..

on the other side we had a more complete story with some plot and charters involved, shit rhymed ight, could have been better tho, you the structure wasn't bad but i would tighten up your choice of words .. once you get it down, and project ur ideas better you'll be a beast.

vote - pain cos im on my artistic shit today but it could have just went the other way too
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pain - i dug this throughout, thoroughly, i honestly felt as though you may have dedicated this to my life though i doubt that being that you only know my internet persona, nevertheless, the flow was nice but not well executed, by this i mean that i enjoyed the rhythm/rhyme scheme of the story but for the most part i would have to re-read lines to actually catch it as some of the lines/words required different paces of reading, but overall it was still nicely done and fit the script well, the story in itself wasn't necessarily creative but worked for me being that it was emotionally driven and dealt with a lot of the things that i am currently going through, good drop

extreme venom - yea, your mechanics were a bit messy and the structure was distracting, also the flow, though good, had some hiccups in it which may be due to the format but still, i enjoyed the story for the most part but the plot/direction seemed to be somewhat sporadic and less focused, still a good story nonetheless but maybe i just didnt feel the connection that i felt with pain's piece or maybe i wasn't allowed that same connection, either way i dug it but not as much

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this was ok, not really anything special it was like a see saw battle with me though at the end i was just wanting more, mechanincs were ok, just an avarage verse for me


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was this a true story if not that was written very well i could feel the emotion, it just read smooth and at the end i was like damn that was quick although there is substance and depth in the verse...overall this was good i enjoyed and liked the structure

overall...vote EV....just liked his verse more, alothough i read these very fast cause i'm racing deadline, props to both
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