Declining Box Office figures

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Old 10-12-2005, 06:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Declining Box Office figures

What do you blame this on?

I don't blame pirating and I don't blame unintelligent, unoriginal films for people turning away. There have been a number of films this year that have bucked the trend. Batman Begins, A History Of Violence, Serenity, Crash, etc. have all been intelligent films (relative to their genres) and none of them did particuarly well at the BO.

I believe there are three main reasons.

1) 2003/4 were especially good years. You had films like Spider-Man 2, Shrek 2, the end of the LOTR and Matrix franchises. This year the only film that could even come close to that is Star Wars. I'd like to see the figures for this year compared to, say, 2000.

2) Noisy kids at the cinema. Which is connected to...

3) DVDs/Home Cinema. I've got no doubt that is the biggest contributer. I love going to the cinema, but I've decided unless it's a film I'm really hyped for, I'll just by the DVD when it comes out. It just makes sense. Why spend money going to a place surrouned by mindless morons when you can have the film forever for more or less the same price? Obviously there's the social reason, and the fact that you get to see it on a huge screen, but there are too many movies coming out anyway.
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Old 10-12-2005, 07:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i doubt its declined THAT drastically in the last year or so

itll be back up in a year or 2 and back down again

youre just reading too much into this
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No, I'm not.

I said myself that I doubt the sales have gone down that much and it probably just looks worse because the last couple of years have been exceptionally good.

However, all the Hollywood studios keep saying that sales are drastically down. I'm saying I believe DVDs are the reason there might be any change. How is that looking too much into it.
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Old 10-12-2005, 08:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
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DVD's.

Back in the day you literally had to wait close to a year after the theatrical release; now it's like 2 months lol.
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DVD's.

Back in the day you literally had to wait close to a year after the theatrical release; now it's like 2 months lol.

well 2 months for Ben Affleck movies

usually its like 4-5 months unless its a special case, like some children/family movies they try to hold off for a holiday release like polar express

but yeah the wait is a lot shorter...i seen a lot of movies in the theatre i wouldnt have seen if they would have hit video sooner
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revenues aren't really down as much as has been said for the major studios....that's made up. last year indie movies bolstered the overall box office by about $500 mil [napoleon dynamite, passion, fahrenehit, garden state]

batman begins did over 200 mil at the box office with a lesser-known actor in the lead, so i don't know what you mean by it didn't perform very well. crash did $40-50 mil which was a solid box for it releasing against star wars and it's relatively low budget

aaaaaaand the box office is way up for the last couple weeks compared to last year....basically, this has been blown out of proportion, don't believe the hype
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The movies now are just plain shitty. Make better films.

Even then, I'd rather watch the dvd on my own projector and surround system...
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i don't know what it is. i've gone up to 3 times a week to the theatres, but usually it's once every couple of weeks.
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well 2 months for Ben Affleck movies

usually its like 4-5 months unless its a special case, like some children/family movies they try to hold off for a holiday release like polar express

but yeah the wait is a lot shorter...i seen a lot of movies in the theatre i wouldnt have seen if they would have hit video sooner
Word. One that stuck out to me was 'Ray'... I lagged on seeing it int he theater and before I knew it, it was coming out on dvd... but didn't they rush it cuz he died or some shit...?
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Word. One that stuck out to me was 'Ray'... I lagged on seeing it int he theater and before I knew it, it was coming out on dvd... but didn't they rush it cuz he died or some shit...?

i thought they rushed it because of the Oscars
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Traffic is declining. Box office sales have still been high, but that's a result of moderate increases in ticket prices.

Bootlegging and shorter turn times from the Silver Screen to DVD releases are partly responsible. A decline in film quality is also part of the problem.
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here's what i don't get about the dvd thing though.....why was last year such a record year at the box office, wasn't there dvd last year too? and 2003? and 2002? why is dvd such an issue this year? no, i do believe if anything it's too much of the same thing...it's not even that the movies are necessarily bad, it's just we've seen most of it all before, which is precisely why indie film is growing, but even then, it's starting to get a little samey too.
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The movies now are just plain shitty. Make better films.
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they should enlist better actors, too.
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the only time i go to the 'cinema' is when our local independant theater shows a film(that i wanted to see but refused to bend over and grab ankles) for 2-3 bucks(also about 2-3 months after it premiered)

as for why it's declining...i heard of this, but never believed it. if anything, it seemed like more people i knew were heading out to the (ass-raping)Theaters...even though they still bought the dvd's and/or downloaded the shit online.

if anything, the only movies that suffered were the awful ones....because now more so than ever...people are getting a heads up on it.(because of the online piracy) people usually go to the theater even if they already seen it on their laptop(the experience of the theater is still there)...if it's good. bad movies get picked out much quicker than they used to before...thanks to online piracy and the ability to reach millions of people world wide through the information superhighway.
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I haven't been feeling films that much recently.

I'll go if the review say its at least decent.

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