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Old 12-02-2006, 02:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Viewing bloodsport for the first time in a while sent a few things aswirling around the deliberation dome. Noting bolo yeung's conscious ode to bruce lee in his portrayal of Chong li confirmed something I have long thought: jean claude van damme is vastly superior to bruce lee. To see the mesmeric collision of balletic grace and brutal intensity that jc represents in close contrast with a very good approximation of lee's cinematic presense settled it for me completely.

If you consider bruce lee's filmography it contains only one great film(in fact if you exclude enter the dragon his filmography is even inferior to that of his son's brandon. The crow, rapid fire and the criminally overlooked legacy of rage easily surpass the remainder of bruce's films). When we puruse jc's toned and generously endowed body of work however we are overwhlemed by the riches on offer. Hard target, sudden death, timecop and kickboxer to name but a few. The only regretable thing about his work is that the senses grow spoilt by such luxurious indulgence becoming harder to satisfy by lesser art.

I hope not to offend any of bruce's fans but the truth must out. Bruce lee was an average performer whom was a benefactor of circumstance. Enter the dragon opened the western audience to eastern culture at a period when the general mood was one of extrospection. As the star of the film that introduced the west to this new exciting wolrld he became its figurehead in the public consciousness. Bruce lee is a cultural icon, jean claude van damme is a cinematic icon.
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word, bloodsport was a great dramatic fighting movie. its not often that a fight from a movie sticks with me like the final showdown in bloodsport did

i never made that comparison.. but i have to admit, theres something about that glorious look of JCs face, and the disciplined steel-tough fighting power.
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bruce lee = average. The math is conclusive

Of the three films you list enter is the only legitimately great film and lee is in truth a mere periphery figure. It is john saxon who propels the movie forward. Lee's contribution is a stylistic one and even in that regard he is outdone by the teq-esque jim kelly.
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God youre fuckin stupid, "the math is conclusive." lol. You cant magically create statistics to justify an opinion on an actor or martial artist.

And film for film its not even close.
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And also your writing style is trite and pretentious. An example would be:

"To see the mesmeric collision of balletic grace and brutal intensity that jc represents in close contrast with a very good approximation of lee's cinematic presense"
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It is john saxon who propels the movie forward. Lee's contribution is a stylistic one and even in that regard he is outdone by the teq-esque jim kelly.
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God youre fuckin stupid, "the math is conclusive." lol. You cant magically create statistics to justify an opinion on an actor or martial artist.

And film for film its not even close.
I believe I just did it though I didnt utilise magic to do so. Just genius.
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And also your writing style is trite and pretentious. An example would be:

"To see the mesmeric collision of balletic grace and brutal intensity that jc represents in close contrast with a very good approximation of lee's cinematic presense"
I appologise that my prose proves too rich for your somewhat rustic tastes.
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