Best grappling base for MMA

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Old 11-04-2009, 01:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Best grappling base for MMA
People always debate about the best striking base for MMA but what do you guys think is the best grappling base for MMA. Lets assume that the fighter doesn't start training grappling until he is in his early 20s. I want to frame the discussion this way, because I personally think that if you don't start wrestling in high school, you won't be able to catch up and become good enough at it for it to be a realistic option (GSP is the exception). I'll drop my thoughts after we get a few responses.

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Also, I would probably shape the catagories like this

Freestyle wrestling, greco/roman wrestling, BJJ, Judo, and Sambo. So don't say something like submission or catch wrestling that is so obscure its not a real option.
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Judo or Sambo.

A solid combination of balance building, throws, and holds...
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Might have to go with freestyle wrestling.

people always say greco roman is the best wrestling base, but I think I'd have to disagree. Greco roman wrestlers usually become the more well rounded fighters, but explosive shooting seems to beat working your way into a clinch for the most part.

i disagree about not being able to catch up on wrestling. I think a lot of people just don't focus on it as much as gsp has, opting instead to become finishers.

catch wrestling is fantastic, but usually it's wrestlers that evolve into catch wrestlers.

bjj, judo, and sambo guys are only good from the get go when it's top of the food chain practitioners, imo.
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I think that the answer is completely dependent upon which striking art the fighter chooses to practice. If a guy is going to mainly train Muay Thai and/or kickboxing, then I think BJJ is really the only option. He would have to be comfortable being on his back so he can kick with confidence.

If a fighter is going to primarily train boxing, then I would suggest that he focus on Judo or Greco/Roman wrestling. I think this way, if a bjj guy wants to clinch to take him down, he will probably put the bjj guy on his back instead. The reason I think it is too late to catch up with wrestlers that have been doing it their entire lives is just from my experience wrestling in high school. The guys that had been wrestling since they were 8-10 owned everyone that just started in high school. Even the good athletes' ceiling if he just started in high school was qualifying for state, but they never won once they made it to state. Maybe I'm wrong about it though.
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