Everyone who picked Shogun over Machida

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Old 10-26-2009, 05:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Everyone who picked Shogun over Machida

How did you picture him winning when you made your pick?

I picked Machida, but I thought Shogun would take it to the ground. Wasn't expecting straight striking at all, I thought it would play right into Machida's hands.


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Old 10-27-2009, 08:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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shogun wanted to take it to the ground....but machida's takedown defense is way to good for him.......

rashad and tito have better takedowns than shogun, and couldn't get him down...........


i picked machida to win...because i expected the vintage showgun.......i really didn't expect him to be patient and fight a technical battle.....really surprised me with his timing and game plan

great fight......he got screwed
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I really thought I'd see him rushing in more, and actually getting take downs.
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I really thought I'd see him rushing in more, and actually getting take downs.
So you expected him to get KOd too?
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Halfway/halfway expected him to land a shot that would rock him and capitalize on it.
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i picked shogun cus hes an overall better fighter thats fought better competition..


i dont think machida can hurt shogun unless he gets reckless like wandy
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to me it was a coin toss

i had machida winning by his usual counterstriking style , controlling the cage and capitalizing on rua mistakes


i had shogun winning by a more controlled aggression than thiago silva, and finishing with knees/looping hooks

shogun fights like a wild animal, but he was even more in control than i thought he would be... he showed up to fight a smart fight
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Very, very similar to how it played out. I knew shogun could wear him down and outpoint him. I pictured a little more clinching and maybe some possible kneebar attempts. Yes, I knew Shogun could counter machida. He did better overall with striking than I expected, but I already said a long time ago that machida's striking game isn't flawless.

I don't think I pictured so many leg and body kicks. I thought the danger of machida snatching one was too great, but I was wrong.
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I wasn't too concerned about shogun getting ko'd because his chin is solid and he won't just stand around and let machida combo him.
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I wasn't too concerned about shogun getting ko'd because his chin is solid and he won't just stand around and let machida combo him.
those knees to the body from shogun were nasty, you see those slowed down? it looked like he compressed machida's entire chest cavity, and everything on his body shook
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Yeah.

I actually thought a couple of shogun's punches looked harder as well when slowed down.

Props to lyoto, though I feel he lost. I still think he and shogun can pretty much rule the 205 division unless anderson gets really bored.

now if they can just add mousasi to the mix.
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i didnt think it would've been too outrageous for shogun to submit him
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^Lol the man's a BJJ blackbelt.

Honestly, I would've picked that as the method of Machida's defeat...
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Shogun grapples more like a shoot wrestler though.

Can be effective, but a lot of mma guys can defend leglocks pretty well.
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