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Old 08-20-2005, 09:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ensigns: Nitsuj, Pent uP, SuB zer0, Fantom




Judgement pt 1


ASSIGNMENT

A Link will be provided to a Random Battle of which each ensign must Reveiw highlight & Explain the Out come of this Battle.

All Of these Issues Should Be addressed:


1. Who Won?

2. Why Did he win?

3. What made his peice understandable?

4. What were your favorite Lines from each? Or Worst Line from the other?

6. What Should the Loser have done Differant?


7. What do you think the Winner's potential is for future matches?






Your Judgement will not Be Line breakdowns IE These:

Quote:
Originally Posted by jook

BITCH PLEASE... I won't even run for the title, I'll walk through
You posted the convo,
But when have I ever denied you a father figure to TALK TO??
ok
Fucka Deon, nigguh'll get pee'd on and beat quick
And if he pulled out the toast on me.. he'd prolly EAT it.
ehh
I'm not conceited, but 2 NO SHOWS is how'd these whores last
Cos when we made predictions Real Hot WAS NOT in the forecast
sick
The 44'll blast, so much Gunsmiths'll want to pay me checks
This nigguh think he famous,
Since something groundbreaking happens every time HD steps
hahah, good
And realism a fat nigguh too, THIS is why I took it
I'd leave flipping them the bird, but they'd try to deep fry and cook it
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RWE Ref Judgements will Consist of three sections:



WINNER BREAK DOWN


Quote:
Originally Posted by Extreme Venom

Masiya.. got off a few nice ones tho


...throw on ya gloves bum, i'll bruise more than a few bones...
...rev wanna box? he thought i was offerin him a new home..

bad quality audio's, you're wrong if ya thinking uglyness cursed you
Light is faster than sound; u had some shine BEFORE we heard you

my fists'll make ya lungs bleed, fight back? how u gun punch me..
..after i 'rip ya arms off' like a muthaphuckin 'gun thief'



Leef Came On & Off constantly in his verse Where as he had Nice concepts but the line fell off cause he didn't set it up.. but then He hit a nice set Up & Line like the The Bum joint & the Gun Thief lines. Overall it was ended Kinda Weak But it Certainly Came off one top.

LOSER BREAKDOWN

Quote:
Rev did nicely too

you're out of your environment, you should leave the lines to me
if your a bad mother fucker...then why's your mom's eyein' me?

they say I'm old and done...there's no way I could measure up
but this ni.gga was considered garbage as soon as he registered!


After that the verse pretty much went down Hill from there but it was still an Enjoyable read. Leef Followed Up but it seemed like he was Stalling or Holding back or intimidated??? Whatever it was this was Certainly Not Full


OFFICIAL JUDGEMENT


Quote:
Overall I think Rev lost this on his Triple Lined Punches, When developing lines like that they should only go that long if theres a Definite killa punch, other wise it's a waste of flow & lines on the line limit, filler if you will... Those triple lines weren't even half as nice as the most of Bar by bar lines he dropped, Solid Verse but the Trips lost it for you here. It was Still pretty close but not Close enough that the winner wasn't visible.


Vote= KaLeef


Warning:

These are not VOTES They are JUDGEMENTS..
Votes can be contested.. JUDGEMENTS Cannot..


Insure there is no arguing your Logic
ANSWER THE 7 POINTS


Insure Three Part Logic & Judgement is Entrertaining & Discriptive
Your a ref in the middle of a match..
Make us Believe your Judgement is CLEAR & FINAL


Quality will be Graded over Quantity

Make it readable & Undeniable






I got all night so... The sooner your Done...


the Sooner your done





(Phase two will be taken individually so the faster you finishe phase one the qicker you can start phase two)





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Old 08-20-2005, 10:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Evaluation

Omega won.

Omegas punchlines made more sense in the battle. Hitman also had some decent punchlines, but some of them coulda have been tossed at nearly anybody. Omega used punchlines that hit much harder and seemed to be a bit more personal, I liked that. His punchlines were also easier to understand. As far a flow, I was able to follow Omega's much easier than Hitmans. Omega's verse was fluid - a smooth read.
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As far as Hitmans lines, they were somewhat complicated. It seemed like he tried to fit too much in a few of the lines... While readin Hitman's, I found myself having to go back a reread a few of the lines to see where the flow was. A more simple approazh may have been a better idea for Hitman. I'm not saying he was garbage, cuz he did have some nice lines - it just seem to contain a lot of fillers.
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last time you were good? well..cum lines were in fashion
-Omega
The best one line in the whole battle. Type of line that would make a crowd go "ooooo". And other punchlines in his verse were just more understandable than Hitman's.
Quote:
U don't even deserve a fair start, I'll just grab ya weak style and tear it apart/
but I'm gonna send this lil bitch omega flying first like Ameilia Eirheart/
Omega, the closest to supreme you'll ever be is if u were that bitch Diana Ross/
your style is like an omega code blueprint for tryna plan a loss/
-Vocal Hitman
The first line into the second line is a great example of where I, as the reader, lost the flow. And the following lines/punchlines were well thought out, but the type of punchlines that I think would confuse many people. Packed with extra words and You gotta think it out before you understand them.


If Hitman woulda simplified his verse this would have been close, but some of his lines were a little drawn out and were the reason the flow was hard to pick up and got lost at times... Minus that, this was a close battle. Omega's got some potential mos definately. Although he will have to step it up, even after rippin Hitman, if he wants to continue to compete against much stronger foes in the future.

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Old 08-20-2005, 10:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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1. Who Won? omega supreme

2. Why Did he win? he killed his competition in everyway possible..flow content disses punchlines etc..it looked like he spent more time on his verse and took the battle more seriously

3. What made his peice understandable?his (omega) piece was easier to read..hitmans lines seem to drag on..omegas verse flowed well i was able to spit it out loud..hitmans is not spitable at all in most spots

4. What were your favorite Lines from each? Or Worst Line from the other?

favorite lines from omega:
"last time you were good? well..cum lines were in fashion" wrd cum lines are so played out they basicaly went out around 01 nice diss

.."and his ass isnt grass to me its just some pesky weeds" ur ass bein grass is bad enough bein weeds is worse..the line sounded cocky it caught my attension..

worse lines: "back from the grave i see? huh? people care? not what i think..didnt you know? not a person on RM--not even verb--repects nasty inc" weak opener..it had no life to it at all

"head sliced, jugular popp'd spine sawed and dropped off..silly little man..did you know the hitman is the first to get knocked off?" same as the opener a really weak way to finish..it seemed rushed like he wanted to just get it over with

favorite lines from hitman:

I'll blast this g, put his ass among ghosts like where Casper be/
I'm nasty b, and you can't fuck with me like a belt of chastity/
kid you'll get sprayed in plane view like I was a crop duster/
I'll drop videos off at ya house, cause ya known as the Block's Busta/

he might have won easy if his whole verse was more like this..the flow was good the concepts werent bad either..the chastity thing is a lil played bt i was feelin how it came off..nice wrd play too

worse lines:

Omega, the closest to supreme you'll ever be is if u were that bitch Diana Ross/
your style is like an omega code blueprint for tryna plan a loss/
even ya crew would find it hard to try an get this text whore hyped/
cause Omega is just an amateur, ya know the young girl next door type/
I'll leave the floor wiped with ya candy ass, no way this geek can repel a vet/
cause Omega is synonomous with Zs just like in the Greek Alphabet/

all of that seems like filler..he tried playin off his name and failed..the diana ross line might have been better with more thought behind it..the greek alphabet reference is played and way too easy of a diss for his name..

that just happens to look like my Adidas logo imprinted on ya forehead/
my lines presented like warheads, to leave this poor lil whore's floor red/

str8 filler you can tell he just ran out of shit to say..and thats a garbage closer





6. What Should the Loser have done Differant?hitman should have took more time on his verse..thought more careful about his disses..it seems he went for the easy ones like omega/greek alphabet types..try not to cram so much in one line so it would flow right..

7. What do you think the Winner's potential is for future matches?omegas verse was better then hitmans and it was just that..i still think he has alot of improvin to do..and he would seriously have problems with a more experienced/skilled battler..he got through this one but he still needs to pull up his shoes..because everybody wont be easy as hitman
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1. Who Won? omega supreme

2. Why Did he win? he killed his competition in everyway possible..flow content disses punchlines etc..it looked like he spent more time on his verse and took the battle more seriously

3. What made his peice understandable?his (omega) piece was easier to read..hitmans lines seem to drag on..omegas verse flowed well i was able to spit it out loud..hitmans is not spitable at all in most spots

4. What were your favorite Lines from each? Or Worst Line from the other?

favorite lines from omega:
"last time you were good? well..cum lines were in fashion" wrd cum lines are so played out they basicaly went out around 01 nice diss

.."and his ass isnt grass to me its just some pesky weeds" ur ass bein grass is bad enough bein weeds is worse..the line sounded cocky it caught my attension..

worse lines: "back from the grave i see? huh? people care? not what i think..didnt you know? not a person on RM--not even verb--repects nasty inc" weak opener..it had no life to it at all

"head sliced, jugular popp'd spine sawed and dropped off..silly little man..did you know the hitman is the first to get knocked off?" same as the opener a really weak way to finish..it seemed rushed like he wanted to just get it over with

favorite lines from hitman:

I'll blast this g, put his ass among ghosts like where Casper be/
I'm nasty b, and you can't fuck with me like a belt of chastity/
kid you'll get sprayed in plane view like I was a crop duster/
I'll drop videos off at ya house, cause ya known as the Block's Busta/

he might have won easy if his whole verse was more like this..the flow was good the concepts werent bad either..the chastity thing is a lil played bt i was feelin how it came off..nice wrd play too

worse lines:

Omega, the closest to supreme you'll ever be is if u were that bitch Diana Ross/
your style is like an omega code blueprint for tryna plan a loss/
even ya crew would find it hard to try an get this text whore hyped/
cause Omega is just an amateur, ya know the young girl next door type/
I'll leave the floor wiped with ya candy ass, no way this geek can repel a vet/
cause Omega is synonomous with Zs just like in the Greek Alphabet/

all of that seems like filler..he tried playin off his name and failed..the diana ross line might have been better with more thought behind it..the greek alphabet reference is played and way too easy of a diss for his name..

that just happens to look like my Adidas logo imprinted on ya forehead/
my lines presented like warheads, to leave this poor lil whore's floor red/

str8 filler you can tell he just ran out of shit to say..and thats a garbage closer





6. What Should the Loser have done Differant?hitman should have took more time on his verse..thought more careful about his disses..it seems he went for the easy ones like omega/greek alphabet types..try not to cram so much in one line so it would flow right..

7. What do you think the Winner's potential is for future matches?omegas verse was better then hitmans and it was just that..i still think he has alot of improvin to do..and he would seriously have problems with a more experienced/skilled battler..he got through this one but he still needs to pull up his shoes..because everybody wont be easy as hitman







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RWE Ref Judgements will Consist of three sections:



WINNER BREAK DOWN


Quote:
Originally Posted by Extreme Venom

Masiya.. got off a few nice ones tho


...throw on ya gloves bum, i'll bruise more than a few bones...
...rev wanna box? he thought i was offerin him a new home..

bad quality audio's, you're wrong if ya thinking uglyness cursed you
Light is faster than sound; u had some shine BEFORE we heard you

my fists'll make ya lungs bleed, fight back? how u gun punch me..
..after i 'rip ya arms off' like a muthaphuckin 'gun thief'



Leef Came On & Off constantly in his verse Where as he had Nice concepts but the line fell off cause he didn't set it up.. but then He hit a nice set Up & Line like the The Bum joint & the Gun Thief lines. Overall it was ended Kinda Weak But it Certainly Came off one top.

LOSER BREAKDOWN

Quote:
Rev did nicely too

you're out of your environment, you should leave the lines to me
if your a bad mother fucker...then why's your mom's eyein' me?

they say I'm old and done...there's no way I could measure up
but this ni.gga was considered garbage as soon as he registered!


After that the verse pretty much went down Hill from there but it was still an Enjoyable read. Leef Followed Up but it seemed like he was Stalling or Holding back or intimidated??? Whatever it was this was Certainly Not Full


OFFICIAL JUDGEMENT


Quote:
Overall I think Rev lost this on his Triple Lined Punches, When developing lines like that they should only go that long if theres a Definite killa punch, other wise it's a waste of flow & lines on the line limit, filler if you will... Those triple lines weren't even half as nice as the most of Bar by bar lines he dropped, Solid Verse but the Trips lost it for you here. It was Still pretty close but not Close enough that the winner wasn't visible.


Vote= KaLeef




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i did it question by question

so i wouldnt forget shit
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Omega won this one hands down...


I'll leave the floor wiped with ya candy ass, no way this geek can repel a vet/
cause Omega is synonomous with Zs just like in the Greek Alphabet/


The only line in Hitmans verse that was really worth the effort... His entire verse's flow was choppy and many of the lines were stretched, like he was trying to put as many words in as he could... Needs to work on that in the future or he could end up low in the ranks if you feel me...


i'd call you washed up, but think, you were never clean, beat the dust
i could throw some of my softest punches and break right through your rust

spit fire like a dragon, leave this fags legs in traction..
..last time you were good? well..cum lines were in fashion
who still reps M.I.C? a blast from the past i see...
...and his ass isnt grass to me its just some pesky weeds


Omega's flow was choppy as well, but it seemed more polished than DVH's... Plus his lines had more substance... Had a few decent punches mixed in with some hard hitting personal's which pushed the battle in his favor...

The verdict: Omega came in with a more polished and effective style while DVH dropped what seemed like a lackluster effort... Both had choppy flow, but Omega didn't stretch his lines nearly as hard as DVH did, and Omega also had more substantial punches...

Omega wins the match...
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