I need a Rapping Vet`s help

The Outlaw · 07-19-2005, 07:15 PM

Please help me become a rapper...I`ve been going for about 1 1/2 month now..I need to know the steps to writing a rap song and what I need to do to improve my lyrical skills as a rapper.I have my own group but we arn`t that good at the moment.I`m only 14 but I`m really into this rap thing I just need help getting out there and whatnot.

SkioS · 07-21-2005, 06:36 PM

watch BET, go to the HOOD, do sumthing, maybe this post should be sent to MTV...they'll move sumthin' quicker than all...

Madpoet · 07-21-2005, 08:30 PM

Ill move this where you may get some help..

leon tha lyricist · 07-23-2005, 02:07 AM

realize that its not for everybody. if it aint you then it aint you. dont fuck up the art cousin you wanna be a rapper.hypothically speaking, of course.

on the flip, practice. the time you spent on it is not enough.

Bonnie Bathory · 07-24-2005, 12:32 AM

I duno what to tell you other than practice... its like any other hobby, you just gotta spend time at it to be good at it if you aren't already naturally...

maybe also... do it for you & about what you know... at least, at first... i mean don't aim to please or you'll never have your own style & don't front & lie about shit you don't do like you do it... just some advice

loislanemiami · 07-29-2005, 02:41 PM

Pretend like your talking to everybody when your writing.

Picture the crowd in front of you. Use subjects that you and your friends talk about everyday, especially things that you laugh about or that you think is f**ked up.

Rap as though you are actually talking to someone and use your lyrics to paint a picture or to describe what is going on or how you feel, so that the person listening can feel as though they are actually there with you even if they aren't. Basically paint a picture with your words.

Don't think too hard. If you get stuck on a verse, leave it alone and come back to it later. Or if your working on more than one song at a time, do one song and if you get stuck, switch to writing the other song.

If you write a verse and you find that it doesnt match with the song you are working on save it. You may be able to use one of the lines or verses for another song later on or it may give you an idea for a whole new song. Save everything, even if you think it sounds dumb.

Every song I thought was stupid, everyone loved. And the ones I thought were the bomb, most people didn't like. So don't be too hard on yourself.

In addition, its all about being catchy. There is a big difference between record company songs and "hot emcee" songs. Most songs with the hottest lyrics are not what record companies want. Record companies want songs that people can sing along to, that stay in people's heads, and that make people wanna dance. So it all depends on what your trying to accomplish. Do you want to be a hot emcee that your peers think is the shit? Or do you want to get a record deal and have them put your shit out? Thousands of artists are signed everyday as tax write off and their music is never put out. Why, because they don't have consumer friendly songs.

Trust me. Ive been there/done that and I have a few friends who are or were executives in the business.

Hope this helps

Just Rich · 11-05-2005, 12:54 PM

most important thing to remember...be YOURSELF...

some1 takes the piss outta you, dont take it to heart, turn around and laugh, its your life, do what YOU wana do not what other ppl want you to do.

listen to other rappers, take notes, how they flow, how they rhyme, how they sound, work on your voice, work on it all day everyday, rap to other songs, people sometimes dont realise how effective that can actually be...the more you rap, the better you get, simple as.

keep writing, some days you wont like what you see, others you'll b lovin it. just dont stop.

thats pretty much it for now, just never give up, ive been rapping since i was about 13/14 im 19 now, ive been writing since i was about 16...so ive been goin a while now, n dont worry if some days u dont feel like rappin, it dont matter take a break, dont wana over-do it, just never give up no matter what.

Just Rich · 11-05-2005, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmceeButtafli

don't front & lie about shit you don't do like you do it... just some advice

thats a dam good point i missed out...DONT talk shit...the BEST rap u can write comes from the HEART...you write shit that normal people cna read and relate to ASWELL AS rappers...then you've succeeded.

Just Rich · 11-05-2005, 12:59 PM

oh and loislanemiami is right...save EVERYTHING...and dont worry if u think other ppl are betr than you, or can, for example, lets say freestyle better than you...dont sweat it, ur probably betr at writing a deep deep song than they are...always keep ya chin up, dont diss your stuff, but at the same time dont hype urself up too much, just keep quiet and your skills will show through.

Transcript · 12-10-2005, 11:47 PM

Yeah its all pretty much practice...

Absorb what you can from your favorite rappers...but don't emulate... come up with something that still represents YOU...

eventhough I'm not a NOT totally against emulating a style...unless you find yourself through it...

If not...your just one of those dudes tryna sound like somebody else...

yuppi · 12-15-2005, 04:29 PM

i want to sound like everybody else. wtf

Ja¢k £an†e®n · 12-15-2005, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuppi

i want to sound like everybody else. wtf

all you've gotta do is make fake attempts at being thug then talk about ice and cars n girls that you dont have then keep saying i'm the best ever i'm the best ever then never be heard from again... its that simple...

KriminaL · 12-18-2005, 12:55 AM

Yeah dude - everyone's pretty much given ya what's up on that, trust me - dont worry about instantly droppin something worthy on M.T.V, ya think Jay-Z -or- Eminem dropped sick shit the first time they spit? hell no - they took the time to practice.

3 things to work on a day

1. Ya voice - Rap EVERYDAY, (Dont go nuts and spend like 22 hours) but rap to songs that are written by famous artists, Songs that are done by underground and song's that you write yaself. this'll give you an idea of how your flow compares to the 2 different catergories. Rap whatever songs you like, fuck it - if you like nelly, then you do flap your wings, if you like eminem - then you lose yaself. whatever, just to help you realize what flow and delivery is about.

2. Writting - Write everyday, dont expect it to be sick, write whatever is in your head, if you think of some lines you think are ill, jot it down. dont let a potentially ill line be lost in your memory because you WILL FORGET shit, trust me.

Write shit that's different, dont be copying 50 cent, (PLEASE DONT), Or eminem, or Jay-Z or 2pac, you dont live their lives dude, write shit that's about you. turn it into a funny piece -or- make it deep and real, whatever just make sure you write.

3. your vocab - dude, rhyming "Yo i have this pet cat || his colour is black || But that, dont matter because hes fat" type of shit, is really old school bad, READ BOOKS - part of the time, people listening to music dont understand what's being said, but if it sounds ill - then fuck, they get a better grasp with the artist, just make sure YOU understand what youre spitting.

Well thats about it, but keep doing it son. Practice

- KriminaL -

E-kLipZ. · 12-18-2005, 07:52 PM

im 12, and check out my open mic verse....
Engines Too Hip-hop

i need help on battlin, like gettin dem punches out

can any1 help me out?

Halloween Jack · 12-19-2005, 02:45 AM

i got chu^^

Dr.Mic · 12-19-2005, 08:01 AM

ayo i aint got much to tell you this guys said it all ,.... but listen to some of the other rapper started wrighting more often , look at some of this cats in RM and turst me u'll get the hang of it maybe not right away but u will improve lil by lil and thats good enufe...... and don't let amyone fool ya by saying you can't rap your only 12 by the time u are 13 you gonna improve

Halloween Jack · 12-19-2005, 04:22 PM

truth.

07-19-2005, 07:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
The Outlaw Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: B-More West Posts: 3	I need a Rapping Vet`s help Please help me become a rapper...I`ve been going for about 1 1/2 month now..I need to know the steps to writing a rap song and what I need to do to improve my lyrical skills as a rapper.I have my own group but we arn`t that good at the moment.I`m only 14 but I`m really into this rap thing I just need help getting out there and whatnot.

07-21-2005, 08:30 PM	#3 (permalink)
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07-23-2005, 02:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
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07-29-2005, 02:41 PM	#6 (permalink)
loislanemiami Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 4	Some writing tips Pretend like your talking to everybody when your writing. Picture the crowd in front of you. Use subjects that you and your friends talk about everyday, especially things that you laugh about or that you think is f**ked up. Rap as though you are actually talking to someone and use your lyrics to paint a picture or to describe what is going on or how you feel, so that the person listening can feel as though they are actually there with you even if they aren't. Basically paint a picture with your words. Don't think too hard. If you get stuck on a verse, leave it alone and come back to it later. Or if your working on more than one song at a time, do one song and if you get stuck, switch to writing the other song. If you write a verse and you find that it doesnt match with the song you are working on save it. You may be able to use one of the lines or verses for another song later on or it may give you an idea for a whole new song. Save everything, even if you think it sounds dumb. Every song I thought was stupid, everyone loved. And the ones I thought were the bomb, most people didn't like. So don't be too hard on yourself. In addition, its all about being catchy. There is a big difference between record company songs and "hot emcee" songs. Most songs with the hottest lyrics are not what record companies want. Record companies want songs that people can sing along to, that stay in people's heads, and that make people wanna dance. So it all depends on what your trying to accomplish. Do you want to be a hot emcee that your peers think is the shit? Or do you want to get a record deal and have them put your shit out? Thousands of artists are signed everyday as tax write off and their music is never put out. Why, because they don't have consumer friendly songs. Trust me. Ive been there/done that and I have a few friends who are or were executives in the business. Hope this helps

11-05-2005, 12:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
Just Rich And You Are? Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: West Mids, UK Posts: 2,737	most important thing to remember...be YOURSELF... some1 takes the piss outta you, dont take it to heart, turn around and laugh, its your life, do what YOU wana do not what other ppl want you to do. listen to other rappers, take notes, how they flow, how they rhyme, how they sound, work on your voice, work on it all day everyday, rap to other songs, people sometimes dont realise how effective that can actually be...the more you rap, the better you get, simple as. keep writing, some days you wont like what you see, others you'll b lovin it. just dont stop. thats pretty much it for now, just never give up, ive been rapping since i was about 13/14 im 19 now, ive been writing since i was about 16...so ive been goin a while now, n dont worry if some days u dont feel like rappin, it dont matter take a break, dont wana over-do it, just never give up no matter what. __________________ JUST RICH ENGLAND ENGLAND ENGLAND

07-21-2005, 06:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
SkioS Destination Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somewhere off in the hamptons givin some pretty bitch a spankon Posts: 846	watch BET, go to the HOOD, do sumthing, maybe this post should be sent to MTV...they'll move sumthin' quicker than all...

07-24-2005, 12:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
Bonnie Bathory Friday's Child Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 7,997	I duno what to tell you other than practice... its like any other hobby, you just gotta spend time at it to be good at it if you aren't already naturally... maybe also... do it for you & about what you know... at least, at first... i mean don't aim to please or you'll never have your own style & don't front & lie about shit you don't do like you do it... just some advice

11-05-2005, 12:59 PM	#9 (permalink)
Just Rich And You Are? Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: West Mids, UK Posts: 2,737	oh and loislanemiami is right...save EVERYTHING...and dont worry if u think other ppl are betr than you, or can, for example, lets say freestyle better than you...dont sweat it, ur probably betr at writing a deep deep song than they are...always keep ya chin up, dont diss your stuff, but at the same time dont hype urself up too much, just keep quiet and your skills will show through. __________________ JUST RICH ENGLAND ENGLAND ENGLAND

12-10-2005, 11:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
Transcript The Legend Join Date: Sep 1999 Location: Emerald City Posts: 138	Yeah its all pretty much practice... Absorb what you can from your favorite rappers...but don't emulate... come up with something that still represents YOU... eventhough I'm not a NOT totally against emulating a style...unless you find yourself through it... If not...your just one of those dudes tryna sound like somebody else... __________________ *º\|-\|ýbrìd Åñgël§º* Shadows of Darkness - Caricature - MiZZery Soul eXo - Refuge - Abstrax Ebbenflow- Aloe Vera - Eulogy - Transcript HA! Battle Record = 01-00

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yuppi da raisin Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: s. fla Posts: 418	i want to sound like everybody else. wtf __________________ she wouldnt stop crying on me

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E-kLipZ. kLipZo Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Jersey Posts: 18	im 12, and check out my open mic verse.... Engines Too Hip-hop i need help on battlin, like gettin dem punches out can any1 help me out? __________________ DRiVIN iN mY E-kLiPz www.myspace.com/klipzo ENGiNES tOo hIp-hOp

12-19-2005, 02:45 AM	#15 (permalink)
Halloween Jack Heavens Demon Join Date: May 2001 Location: a place called Shadows Fall... that small town in the back of beyond where legends go to die when the world stops believing in them... and nightmares go to wait till they're called again... Posts: 7,310	i got chu^^ __________________ Sig 8 lines maximum including spaces

12-19-2005, 08:01 AM	#16 (permalink)
Dr.Mic What da problem is? Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,409	ayo i aint got much to tell you this guys said it all ,.... but listen to some of the other rapper started wrighting more often , look at some of this cats in RM and turst me u'll get the hang of it maybe not right away but u will improve lil by lil and thats good enufe...... and don't let amyone fool ya by saying you can't rap your only 12 by the time u are 13 you gonna improve __________________ Dr.Mic

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Halloween Jack Heavens Demon Join Date: May 2001 Location: a place called Shadows Fall... that small town in the back of beyond where legends go to die when the world stops believing in them... and nightmares go to wait till they're called again... Posts: 7,310	truth. __________________ Sig 8 lines maximum including spaces

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