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This is Your Nation on White Privilege. You be the judge......
Courtesy of Tim Wise...
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This is Your Nation on White Privilege
For those who still can't grasp the concept of white privilege, or who are looking for some easy-to-understand examples of it, perhaps this list will help.
White privilege is when you can get pregnant at seventeen like Bristol Palin and everyone is quick to insist that your life and that of your family is a personal matter, and that no one has a right to judge you or your parents, because "every family has challenges," even as black and Latino families with similar "challenges" are regularly typified as irresponsible, pathological and arbiters of social decay.
White privilege is when you can call yourself a "fuckin' redneck," like Bristol Palin's boyfriend does, and talk about how if anyone messes with you, you'll "kick their fuckin' ass," and talk about how you like to "shoot shit" for fun, and still be viewed as a responsible, all-American boy (and a great son-in-law to be) rather than a thug.
White privilege is when you can attend four different colleges in six years like Sarah Palin did (one of which you basically failed out of, then returned to after making up some coursework at a community college), and no one questions your intelligence or commitment to achievement, whereas a person of color who did this would be viewed as unfit for college, and probably someone who only got in in the first place because of affirmative action.
White privilege is when you can claim that being mayor of a town smaller than most medium-sized colleges, and then Governor of a state with about the same number of people as the lower fifth of the island of Manhattan, makes you ready to potentially be president, and people don't all piss on themselves with laughter, while being a black U.S. Senator, two-term state Senator, and constitutional law scholar, means you're "untested."
White privilege is being able to say that you support the words "under God" in the pledge of allegiance because "if it was good enough for the founding fathers, it's good enough for me," and not be immediately disqualified from holding office--since, after all, the pledge was written in the late 1800s and the "under God" part wasn't added until the 1950s--while believing that reading accused criminals and terrorists their rights (because, ya know, the Constitution, which you used to teach at a prestigious law school requires it), is a dangerous and silly idea only supported by mushy liberals.
White privilege is being able to be a gun enthusiast and not make people immediately scared of you.
White privilege is being able to have a husband who was a member of an extremist political party that wants your state to secede from the Union, and whose motto is "Alaska first," and no one questions your patriotism or that of your family, while if you're black and your spouse merely fails to come to a 9/11 memorial so she can be home with her kids on the first day of school, people immediately think she's being disrespectful.
White privilege is being able to make fun of community organizers and the work they do--like, among other things, fight for the right of women to vote, or for civil rights, or the 8-hour workday, or an end to child labor--and people think you're being pithy and tough, but if you merely question the experience of a small town mayor and 18-month governor with no foreign policy expertise beyond a class she took in college and the fact that she lives close to Russia--you're somehow being mean, or even sexist.
White privilege is being able to convince white women who don't even agree with you on any substantive issue to vote for you and your running mate anyway, because suddenly your presence on the ticket has inspired confidence in these same white women, and made them give your party a "second look."
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09-18-2008, 08:44 PM
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Conclusional rest.....
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White privilege is being able to fire people who didn't support your political campaigns and not be accused of abusing your power or being a typical politician who engages in favoritism, while being black and merely knowing some folks from the old-line political machines in Chicago means you must be corrupt.
White privilege is when you can take nearly twenty-four hours to get to a hospital after beginning to leak amniotic fluid, and still be viewed as a great mom whose commitment to her children is unquestionable, and whose "next door neighbor" qualities make her ready to be VP, while if you're a black candidate for president and you let your children be interviewed for a few seconds on TV, you're irresponsibly exploiting them.
White privilege is being able to give a 36 minute speech in which you talk about lipstick and make fun of your opponent, while laying out no substantive policy positions on any issue at all, and still manage to be considered a legitimate candidate, while a black person who gives an hour speech the week before, in which he lays out specific policy proposals on several issues, is still criticized for being too vague about what he would do if elected.
White privilege is being able to attend churches over the years whose pastors say that people who voted for John Kerry or merely criticize George W. Bush are going to hell, and that the U.S. is an explicitly Christian nation and the job of Christians is to bring Christian theological principles into government, and who bring in speakers who say the conflict in the Middle East is God's punishment on •••s for rejecting Jesus, and everyone can still think you're just a good church-going Christian, but if you're black and friends with a black pastor who has noted (as have Colin Powell and the U.S. Department of Defense) that terrorist attacks are often the result of U.S. foreign policy and who talks about the history of racism and its effect on black people, you're an extremist who probably hates America.
White privilege is not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is when asked by a reporter, and then people get angry at the reporter for asking you such a "trick question," while being black and merely refusing to give one-word answers to the queries of Bill O'Reilly means you're dodging the question, or trying to seem overly intellectual and nuanced.
White privilege is being able to go to a prestigious prep school, then to Yale and then Harvard Business school, and yet, still be seen as just an average guy (George W. Bush) while being black, going to a prestigious prep school, then Occidental College, then Columbia, and then to Harvard Law, makes you "uppity," and a snob who probably looks down on regular folks.
White privilege is being able to graduate near the bottom of your college class (McCain), or graduate with a C average from Yale (W.) and that's OK, and you're cut out to be president, but if you're black and you graduate near the top of your class from Harvard Law, you can't be trusted to make good decisions in office.
White privilege is being able to dump your first wife after she's disfigured in a car crash so you can take up with a multi-millionaire beauty queen (who you go on to call the c-word in public) and still be thought of as a man of strong family values, while if you're black and married for nearly twenty years to the same woman, your family is viewed as un-American and your gestures of affection for each other are called "terrorist fist bumps."
White privilege is being able to sing a song about bombing Iran and still be viewed as a sober and rational statesman, with the maturity to be president, while being black and suggesting that the U.S. should speak with other nations, even when we have disagreements with them, makes you "dangerously naive and immature."
White privilege is being able to claim your experience as a POW has anything at all to do with your fitness for president, while being black and experiencing racism and an absent father is apparently among the "lesser adversities" faced by other politicians, as Sarah Palin explained in her convention speech.
And finally, white privilege is the only thing that could possibly allow someone to become president when he has voted with George W. Bush 90 percent of the time, even as unemployment is skyrocketing, people are losing their homes, inflation is rising, and the U.S. is increasingly isolated from world opinion, just because white voters aren't sure about that whole "change" thing. Ya know, it's just too vague and ill-defined, unlike, say, four more years of the same, which is very concrete and certain.
White privilege is, in short, the problem.
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Black privilege is the ability to blame all of your race's problems on white people and never have that assertion scrutinized without accusations of racism being leveled.
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Here is what tim wise wants. He wants you to argue back with black stereotypes.
This is what tim wise means by your "whiteness is showing". Even though all you're doing is pointing out how stereotypical tim wise is being. However, I won't go that route with obama though one could given some of his past history. Just for example: Drug use.
So to make my point I'll give you a few examples of how to deal with tim wise:
"White privilege is not knowing what the Bush Doctrine is when asked by a reporter, and then people get angry at the reporter for asking you such a "trick question,".
Never mind tim's race-baiting just prove his claims wrong.
What Mr.wise failed to realize is there are 4 different versions of the bush doctrine. This has to do with resentment toward the MSM and nothing to do with White privilege. Yet Tim wise sees no trick question? A question which charlie didn't even provide the right answer to himself after trying to trip her up? Charlie had every right to do it, but he should of at least got the fucking answer right himself. And for the record she didn't exactly get it wrong. http://mcauleysworld.wordpress.com/2...son-was-wrong/
"White privilege is being able to give a 36 minute speech in which you talk about lipstick and make fun of your opponent, while laying out no substantive policy positions on any issue at all, and still manage to be considered a legitimate candidate, while a black person who gives an hour speech the week before, in which he lays out specific policy proposals on several issues, is still criticized for being too vague about what he would do if elected."
Again Tim swings and misses. On MSNBC the media reporters were swooning over obama's DNC speech. Obama had his time in the sun. Palin got her time in the sun next because the RNC followed practically afterward. Even bill maher said it was a bit much: YouTube - Bill Maher Mocks the MSNBC-Obama "Love Fest" While obama's teleprompter oratory was more masterful compared to palins, one has to be honest and say obama's speech had no substance to it either. That's what debates are for anyway, Mr.wise.
"White privilege is being able to claim your experience as a POW has anything at all to do with your fitness for president, while being black and experiencing racism and an absent father is apparently among the "lesser adversities" faced by other politicians, as Sarah Palin explained in her convention speech."
Tim, Tim, Tim, you're showing signs of ageism towards mccain. Dear I say it, your "ageism is showing". It's not white privilege it's military privilege. Mccain wasn't just a POW who was so badly tortured to point he can nolonger left his arms over his head anymore. He also studied military at a National War College. Military-wise (no pun intended) the president is in charge of this area as Commander in cheif. Obama dealt with racism? who doesn't! no father? I had no mother, so what! As for the lesser adversities that's a bold face distrotion: "Obama grew up with all the advantages afforded a child of well-educated parents, who provided him with the right cultural, economic and social capital that schools value and reward, enabling him to attend an elite private school in Hawaii. All of this put him on a power path that led to Columbia University and Harvard Law School and enabled him to pursue a life in high-octane national politics." http://tearingdownthegates.••••••••....ss-system.html PLEASE, at least Obama avoided being forced to learn the Ropes at the Hanoi Hilton. http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Rea...5-8D4D969C8711
"White privilege is when you can claim that being mayor of a town smaller than most medium-sized colleges, and then Governor of a state with about the same number of people as the lower fifth of the island of Manhattan, makes you ready to potentially be president, and people don't all piss on themselves with laughter, while being a black U.S. Senator, two-term state Senator, and constitutional law scholar, means you're untested."
Actually no tim, this is something Obama started with "Only a heart beat away from the presidency" Infact, Tim, she's only running for VP while obama who has about her same level of experience if not a little less and is running for POTUS. Obama wanting to nationalize the whole system shows no scholarship in constitutional law. Not to mention, obama wanting to ban any gun of any kind.
"White privilege is being able to make fun of community organizers and the work they do--like, among other things, fight for the right of women to vote, or for civil rights, or the 8-hour workday, or an end to child labor--and people think you're being pithy and tough, but if you merely question the experience of a small town mayor and 18-month governor with no foreign policy expertise beyond a class she took in college and the fact that she lives close to Russia you're somehow being mean, or even sexist."
Tim seems to see racism in everything yet he can't see sexism in somethings? To quote tim wise:"White privilege is being able to convince white women who don't even agree with you on any substantive issue to vote for you and your running mate anyway, because suddenly your presence on the ticket has inspired confidence in these same white women, and made them give your party a second look." What is wrong with giving props to Mrs.clinton on her historical achievement Mr.wise? Why is not pandering to run obama? Where is obama's foreign policy expertise? there is none which is why he picked Biden. Not realizing biden is completely foreign to foreign policy. Ok so he's community organizer we can all see that, but should that make him POTUS? no. espeically snice he only became one for political expediency reasons. What Did Obama Do As A Community Organizer? by Byron York on National Review Online
I could go on and on busting up Tim unwise. But Tim unwise is a race-baiter spiting disinfo here. And I do find him a waste of time as well as mentally ill. It wasn't john mccain that said obama didn't look like one of the guys on the dollar bills. it was Obama himself. Mr.unwise should just come at people without the race, but he can't do that, otherwise his claims would be debunked on the spot. He also seems to like making stereotypes. Tim totally misses the point palin like obama is a minority. Though by gender not skin color of course. Which to me at least doesn't matter. I just don't agree with Marxism. I guess my "respect for the constitution" is showing. http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/.../palin-rumors/
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"Spending for the common good" is not equitable to "spreading the wealth." Taxation for spending for the common good is paying a fee for services rendered. For example, I pay a tax and I get military/police/fire protection, infrastructure improvements, and mail services. Taxation for spreading the wealth is paying a fee for no services rendered. For example, I pay a tax and it goes in the form of a check to someone who pays no taxes.-menaz The Communist Manifesto's second plank is, "A heavy progressive or graduated income tax."-Marx & Engles http://www.reason.tv/roughcut/show/628.htmlJanuary 20th, 2009. A date which will live in infamy.
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"White privilege is being able to graduate near the bottom of your college class (McCain), or graduate with a C average from Yale (W.) and that's OK, and you're cut out to be president, but if you're black and you graduate near the top of your class from Harvard Law, you can't be trusted to make good decisions in office.
You're not running against Bush! Plus, it's completely irrelevant given the fact harry Truman, Andrew Jackson,William Harrison, Zachary Taylor, Millard Fillmore, Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Johnson, Grover Cleveland, Harry Truman never went to college. However, Truman was a World War 1 Hero. The fact obama is a liberal lawyer with a alinsky philosophy with a taste for marxism is exactly why he should not be trusted in office. or to make decisions in any office for that matter.
"White privilege is being able to sing a song about bombing Iran and still be viewed as a sober and rational statesman, with the maturity to be president, while being black and suggesting that the U.S. should speak with other nations, even when we have disagreements with them, makes you "dangerously naive and immature."
Mccain was joking, you tool. FDR and Reagan had the same sort of sense of humor.
While Mr.unwise is a tool a even bigger tool named obama actually wanted to meet
with iran without preconditions. That's rookie mistake 101.
Hot Air Blog Archive History re-written: Obama never said he would meet personally with Iran without precondition, says advisor; Update: Website excerpt added
"White privilege is being able to attend churches over the years whose pastors say that people who voted for John Kerry or merely criticize George W. Bush are going to hell, and that the U.S. is an explicitly Christian nation and the job of Christians is to bring Christian theological principles into government, and who bring in speakers who say the conflict in the Middle East is God's punishment on •••s for rejecting Jesus, and everyone can still think you're just a good church-going Christian, but if you're black and friends with a black pastor who has noted (as have Colin Powell and the U.S. Department of Defense) that terrorist attacks are often the result of U.S. foreign policy and who talks about the history of racism and its effect on black people, you're an extremist who probably hates America."
Black Liberation Theology: American Thinker: The Real Agenda of Black Liberation Theology
U.S. foreign policy did not create muslim extremism Qutbism created muslim extremism: American Thinker: Osama Bin Laden as Robin Hood? It doesn't matter what the USA does, did, or doesn't do. Before these people turned their sights on us these orginizations were trying to coup Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and India. These radical muslims have a bone to pick with democracy, islam that does not agree with their form of Islam, and other religions (such as the one in India) that will not accept dhimmitude. Their goal was to establish a global caliphate with their form of Sharia law. Colin powell just like Michael Scheuer did not fully understand Al-qaeda. Because they did not have all the evidence. Nor do either of them speak arabic. However, Raymond Ibrahim does. Their reasons are theological the black propaganda is U.S. foreign policy. YouTube - Al Qaeda Reader by Raymond Ibrahim on Hannity's America
"White privilege is being able to have a husband who was a member of an extremist political party that wants your state to secede from the Union, and whose motto is "Alaska first," and no one questions your patriotism or that of your family, while if you're black and your spouse merely fails to come to a 9/11 memorial so she can be home with her kids on the first day of school, people immediately think she's being disrespectful."
Her husband was only a registered member until 2002 but he never attended. It's no big suprise Mrs. obama dislikes america "for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country," she's been just as wacky as Todd palin in the past. So we have kooky significant others. And obviously palin's patriotism was question which is how the lies got started that Sarah palin was a memeber of ALP. Mrs.Obama was also up to little more than just that: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/michael...-9-11-ceremony And according to matt lauer we're not even allowed to question Mrs.obama's patriotism: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-w...mas-patriotism Just saying.
"White privilege is when you can attend four different colleges in six years like Sarah Palin did (one of which you basically failed out of, then returned to after making up some coursework at a community college), and no one questions your intelligence or commitment to achievement."
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president William Harrison - (attended college but never received a degree)
president Harry Truman – (went to law school but did not receive a degree)
Obama is smart but we're not just voting for the best college education here. If that where the case then Obama would have more college education in common with Bush. As you can see truman did do good in school and harrison didn't do good in college however that doesn't always mean we should just automatically assume only a harvard/yale educated type is best suited for POTUS.
However, sarah palin graduated college with a minor in political science. She might of failed but that doesn't make her a loser. There's a big difference between a loser and someone who failed. A loser never trys where as someone who has failed will try again until they have successed. And by trying again she did just that, successed. Alot of the founding fathers believed in the motto that a person should be allowed to fail only inorder to succeed.
I could go on and on busting up Tim unwise. But Tim unwise is a race-baiter spiting disinfo here. And I do find him a waste of time as well as mentally ill. It wasn't john mccain that said obama didn't look like one of the guys on the dollar bills. it was Obama himself. Mr.unwise should just come at people without the race, but he can't do that, otherwise his claims would be debunked on the spot. He also seems to like making stereotypes. Tim totally misses the point palin like obama is a minority. Though by gender not skin color of course. Which to me at least doesn't matter. I just don't agree with Marxism. I guess my "respect for the constitution" is showing. http://explorations.chasrmartin.com/.../palin-rumors/
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Y'all some whiney ass white folks. What from the initial post is not true? Because I gotta tell ya: lots of whites are saying this. What is the retort then?
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the funny part is, only white people try to act like race doesn't matter any more. Black, Hispanic, Asian, Middle Eastern... all know it matters greatly. But only American whites act as if it magically disappeared. And only when convenient. In the privacy of their own thoughts it still matters.
Unicorn chasin mu'afuckas.
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so, basically, disagreeing with tim wise about sarah palin is evidence of white privilege. Just the level of reasoning you'd expect from someone who has been alive for over 40 years and has still not discovered he is white.
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Damn-it takes a national election to point out this everyday shit...
Obama will be a catalyst for exsposing the deep seated covert racsim in this country...
All he has too do is stay neutral & the racist will eventually cross the line repeatedly....
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if these so called white privileges are occurring then why is he not giving them a pass?
this article actually defeats itself because he is questioning what he deems unquestionable.
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When will the deep-seated racism of many African Americans be exposed? Anybody?
What about that privilege?
Do you think any white guy could refer to New York City as "Hymie Town" like Jesse Jackson did and still have a political career? Where he is still embraced as a champion of ending racism? There's an entire litany of examples that can be paraded around.
The fact of the matter is that most people are against racism. They just don't want to affiliate with folks who put 99.99% of the blame on one race and act as if members of their race have never done anything bad in the entire history of the world.
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the funny part is, only white people try to act like race doesn't matter any more. Black, Hispanic, Asian, Middle Eastern... all know it matters greatly. But only American whites act as if it magically disappeared. And only when convenient. In the privacy of their own thoughts it still matters.
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And which of those four tend to use it as a crutch when times are hard?
I can't think of a single Hispanic, Asian, or Middle Eastern person I have encountered that complains, quits, or blames others when they're struggling, yet poor whites and poor blacks alike are quick to point fingers when their chips are down. Why is that?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _KDP_
the funny part is, only white people try to act like race doesn't matter any more. Black, Hispanic, Asian, Middle Eastern... all know it matters greatly. But only American whites act as if it magically disappeared. And only when convenient. In the privacy of their own thoughts it still matters.
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In response to that,I'm not from the US but to me race does not matter at all.
I am not responsible for what any person in the past has done nor are you.Generally the population of the world is becoming less ignorant these days.Fuck all the race hate,we are just taught shit from birth.
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Sadly... very sadly racisim does still exist in this "so called" free world.
Now tell me this... did slaves have the right to blame their white oppressor?
(that was a rhetorical question,ofcourse)
Now tell me who is running this crooked country?
Have you heads read up on what Cointelpro is?
here you go...
August 25, 1967
PERSONAL ATTENTION TO ALL OFFICES
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[From] Director, FBI
COUNTERINTELLIGENCE PROGRAM
BLACK NATIONALIST - HATE GROUPS
INTERNAL SECURITY
[...] The purpose of this new counterintelligence endeavor is to
expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or OTHERWISE NEUTRALIZE [emphasis
added] the activities of black nationalist hate-type organizations and
groupings, their leadership, spokesmen, membership, and supporters, and
to counter their propensity for violence and civil disorder. The activities
of all such groups of intelligence interest to the Bureau must be followed
on a continuous basis so we will be in a position to promptly take advantage
of all opportunities for counterintelligence and inspire action in instances
where circumstances warrant. The pernicious background of such groups,
their duplicity, and devious maneuvers must be exposed to public scrutiny
where such publicity will have a neautralizing effect. Efforts of the
various groups to consolidate their forces or to recruit new or youthful
adherents must be frustrated. NO OPPORTUNITY SHOULD BE MISSED TO
EXPLOIT THROUGH COUNTERINTELLIGENCE TECHNIQUES THE ORGANIZATIONAL AND
PERSONAL CONFLICTS OF THE LEADERSHIPS OF THE GROUPS AND WHERE POSSIBLE AN
EFFORT SHOULD BE MADE TO CAPITALIZE UPON EXISTING CONFLICTS BETWEEN COMPETING
BLACK NATIONALIST ORGANIZATIONS. [emphasis added] When an opportunity is
apparent to disrupt or NEUTRALIZE [emphasis added] black nationalist, hate-
type organizations through the cooperation of established local news media
contacts or through such contact with sources available to the Seat of
Government [Hoover's office]*, in every instance careful attention must be
given to the proposal to insure the targetted group is disrupted, ridiculed,
or discredited through the publicity and not merely publicized...
You are also cautioned that the nature of this new endeavor is such
that UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD THE EXISTENCE OF THE PROGRAM BE MADE
KNOWN OUTSIDE THE BUREAU [emphasis added] and appropriate within-office
security should be afforded to sensitive operations and techniques considered
under the program.
No counterintelligence action under this program may be initiated
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by the field without specific prior Bureau authorization. [Emphasis in orig.]
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* [EDITOR'S NOTE: "Seat of Government" (SOG) is an official designation
created by J. Edgar Hoover to refer to his own office. Hoover was director
of the FBI for some 40 years, even receiving a special exemption from
compulsory retirement by President Ford. The "SOG" appelation is
indicative of his egotistical view of his power, which saw presidents come
and go.]
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You think you're reaching for the stars with ya posts when the reality is, it's just sand slippin through ya fingers cause you need some sustenance in ya life.
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continued...
COUNTERINTELLIGENCE PROGRAM
BLACK NATIONALIST - HATE GROUPS
RACIAL INTELLIGENCE 3/4/68
[...]
GOALS
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For maximum effectiveness of the Counterintelligence Program, and
to prevent wasted effort, long-range goals are being set.
1. Prevent the COALITION of militant black nationalist groups. In
unity there is strength; a truism that is no less valid for all its
triteness. An effective coalition of black nationalist groups might be the
first step toward a real "Mau Mau" [Black revolutionary army] in America,
the beginning of a true black revolution.
2. Prevent the RISE OF A "MESSIAH" who could unify, and
electrify, the militant black nationalist movement. Malcolm X might have
been such a "messiah;" he is the martyr of the movement today. Martin
Luther King, Stokely Carmichael and Elijah Muhammed all aspire to this
position. Elijah Muhammed is less of a threat because of his age. King
could be a very real contender for this position should he abandon his
supposed "obedience" to "white, liberal doctrines" (nonviolence) and embrace
black nationalism. Carmichael has the necessary charisma to be a real
threat in this way.
3. Prevent VIOLENCE on the part of black nationalist groups. This
is of primary importance, and is, of course, a goal of our investigative
activity; it should also be a goal of the Counterintelligence Program to
pinpoint potential troublemakers and neutralize them before they
exercise their potential for violence.
4. Prevent militant black nationalist groups and leaders from
gaining RESPECTABILITY, by discrediting them to three separate segments of
the community. The goal of discrediting black nationalists must be handled
tactically in three ways. You must discredit those groups and individuals
to, first, the responsible Negro community. Second, they must be
discredited to the white community, both the responsible community and to
"liberals" who have vestiges of sympathy for militant black nationalist
[sic] simply because they are Negroes. Third, these groups must be
discredited in the eyes of Negro radicals, the followers of the movement.
This last area requires entirely different tactics from the first two.
Publicity about violent tendencies and radical statements merely enhances
black nationalists to the last group; it adds "respectability" in a different
way.
5. A final goal should be to prevent the long-range GROWTH of
militant black organizations, especially among youth. Specific tactics to
prevent these groups from converting young people must be developed. [...]
TARGETS
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Primary targets of the Counterintelligence Program, Black
Nationalist-Hate Groups, should be the most violent and radical groups and
their leaders. We should emphasize those leaders and organizations that
are nationwide in scope and are most capable of disrupting this country.
These targets, members, and followers of the:
Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC)
Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC)
Revolutionary Action Movement (RAM)
NATION OF ISLAM (NOI) [emphasis added]
Offices handling these cases and those of Stokely Carmichael of
SNCC, H. Rap Brown of SNCC, Martin Luther King of SCLC, Maxwell Stanford of
RAM, and Elijah Muhammed of NOI, should be alert for counterintelligence
suggestions. [...]
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[SOURCE: Brian Glick, _The_War_At_Home: _Covert_Action_Against_U.S._
Activists_And_What_We_Can_Do_About_ It_ (Boston: South End Press, 1989)
ISBN: 0-89608-349-7.]
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To all you dumb, dumbs,
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonmuz
You think you're reaching for the stars with ya posts when the reality is, it's just sand slippin through ya fingers cause you need some sustenance in ya life.
Stop it.
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09-25-2008, 12:41 AM
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Number 2 on this alone list should open peoples eyes and let it be known that the black Americans here are the true Israelites.
This whole G.O. is still in effect and this gov is scared of us cause not only are the blacks here the true Israelites but the Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Indians (western and eastern), Arbians etc... are all part of the 12 Tribes Of Hebrew Israelites.
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Watch Out For My Nigga Moments
To all you dumb, dumbs,
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonmuz
You think you're reaching for the stars with ya posts when the reality is, it's just sand slippin through ya fingers cause you need some sustenance in ya life.
Stop it.
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09-25-2008, 01:13 AM
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This is more disturbing than believing that Mcain had no idea his pappy owned 50+ slaves - he for whatever reason, true or false, did not identify with his ancestory.
The 1900 to date is, in my opinion, the age of how the unreasonable declared reason.
To debate issues and intellect are only ideological, not factual or actionable.... we are all lowly creatures.
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"… to the man who is actually in the arena... his place will never be with those timid cold souls who know neither victory nor defeat." Climbing out of the hole and leaving the whispers behind. idiom
I realized the high road is idealistic and we are lowly creatures, everyone. The only difference is some are able to walk and not crawl, nor squirm on their belly.
You decide.
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