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Old 12-08-2006, 12:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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To my Muslim brothers and sisters

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I can't help but wonder why Muslims aren't defending their faith in this thread. Thrilla is now only responding to Menaz and Red (who is one of the more well read of the group) is not saying anything. Where is my guy, Numaan? Him and Red together should be able to try and argue this.

And please don't give me none of that "translation" shit.
The entire Quran contradicts Yeshua's teachings.
If you accept Mohammed then you reject Yeshua.
If you accept Yeshua you HAVE to reject Mohammed.

Buddha taught the same thing as Yeshua.
Lao Tzu taught the same thing as Buddha.

Taoism, Buddhism, The •••ish Prophets, AND the Nazarenes (Yeshua) ALL taught the same exact message. Peace, love, equality, honesty, non-violence, seeking of wisdom, joy, compassion . . . etc. Mohammed taught war, murder, the •••s are all pigs and apes, "collecting booty" and sex in heaven.
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The only time I see Muslims celebrate is when they are going to War (yes, regardless of what Liberals and lying ass Muslims claim, Jihad is a MAJOR part of TRUE Islam and Osama is more Muslim than anybody on this site).
I've only preached these facts for the past 3 years about islam. And I recall getting shit from you and every muslim on this site for doing so.

Glad to see you wised up.
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Islam is split up into two houses... dar al-Harb (house of war) & dar al-Islam ( House of submission.) Their Global plan is to use Dar al-harb to force everyone into dar al-islam.

Muslims want to rule the world.

They want •••s out of the way.
They want american free-thinkers out of the way.
they want christians out of the way.
They want buddhist & hindus out of the way.

You either become Dhimmies or you are slaughtered in the name of jahid.

They want a monoploy on faith and allah inorder to politically dominate how you think. No speration from chruch and state. Instead The Mosque rules the state.

Anyone who disagrees is lying for islam. This is common, Since the fact of the matter is Muslims are suppose to lie to protect their religion.
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Thats why I read history. Though there was a time when I did read the quran.Sick part is Little innocent Palestinian kids are taught Jahada. Now that I think about it I find the expression do as Mohammad did to be quit Similar to that movie jesus camp. It's brainwashing people/children into Obedience of Islam domination.

Eventually all religions (war-wise) will have to become like Islam just to counterattack it. (jesus camp is a exellent example of that.) Once this happens you'll have your worriors of God created followed by the Yawm al-Qiyamah. Yawm al-Qiyamah is just a real nice way of saying we're all going to murder one another while destoring the planet in the process. I don't believe it is prophecy? I believe it is Insane religious ideologies trying to bring what they've read(judgement day) into reality. And now with the capaiblities of nuclear proliferation a promise land and 72 virgins are not too far way.
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Thats why I read history. Though there was a time when I did read the quran.Sick part is Little innocent Palestinian kids are taught Jahada. Now that I think about it I find the expression do as Mohammad did to be quit Similar to that movie jesus camp. It's brainwashing people/children into Obedience of Islam domination.

Eventually all religions (war-wise) will have to become like Islam just to counterattack it. (jesus camp is a exellent example of that.) Once this happens you'll have your worriors of God created followed by the Yawm al-Qiyamah. Yawm al-Qiyamah is just a real nice way of saying we're all going to murder one another while destoring the planet in the process. I don't believe it is prophecy? I believe it is Insane religious ideologies trying to bring what they've read(judgement day) into reality. And now with the capaiblities of nuclear proliferation a promise land and 72 virgins are not too far way.
Oh look who it is again, Mr locuacious spewing trash again. I refuted your dummy-ass so many times that you were the laughing stock of this whole website [still are]


Every muslim with good knowledge of islam know the 72 virgin hadith is not authentic. You probably heard this already but continue to tarnish the image of islam because your nothing but a hater.


Your people have no understanding of islam what so ever. You guys read the english translation of the quran, skim through it like a comic book and think you understand the religion [a complex doctine just like any other faith]


I've been muslim all my life and i know what im talking about unlike you. Fucking idiots
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Thrilla . . . let me ask you a few questions. Answer them honestly (I understand that your religion teaches that it's okay to lie in order to defend Islam, but try to be honest with your answers)

Yes or No will do. I don't need long drawn out bullshit explanations. Just simply answer the question. I would also suggest that you reconsider if you are thinking about lying because I have all the evidence to support these answers on the shelf beside me.

1. Did Mohammed believe himself to be possessed by demons? (Yes or No)
2. Did Mohammed have seizures when receiving his "messages"? (Yes or No)
3. Did Muslims worship Allah before Mohammed was born? (Yes or No)
4. Was Mohammed's first wife an Abionite Christian? (Yes or No)
5. Did Mohammed take the lives of other human beings and praise Allah while doing it? (Yes or No)
6. Did Mohammed claim to make a night journey from Mecca to Jerusalem on a "flying donkey"? (Yes or No)
7. Did Mohammed's revelations change between Mecca and Medina? (Yes or No)
8. Is there a single chapter in the Quran that is not insulting or verbally attacking Christians or •••s? (Yes or No)
9. Does the Quran state that Mary (Isa's mother) was the sister of Moses? (Yes or No)
10. Did Mohammed have sex with a 9 year old girl? (Yes or No)
11. Did Mohammed take more than 4 wives at one time? (Yes or No)
12. Did Mohammed kill a •••ish woman for mourning over her dead family? (Yes or No)
13. Did Mohammed mistake a regular man for the Angel Gabriel? (Yes or No)
14. Does the Quran state that •••s were turned into Pigs and Mon-keys? (Yes or No)
15. Are the stories of the Quran (ALL) found in the Torah in a much clearer and more accurate order? (Yes or No)
16. If a Muslim man murders a •••ish man, will he be put to death for it? (Yes or No)
17. Did Mohammed promise Muslims sex in paradise? (Yes or No)
18. Did Mohammed declare that the majority of people in Hell will be Women? (Yes or No)
19. Did Mohammed say that he was not sure if he was going to heaven or hell? (Yes or No)
20. Did Mohammed teach that nobody can know God, not even him? (Yes or No)
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1. Did Mohammed believe himself to be possessed by demons? (Yes or No)

NO he was not possessed by demons.

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2. Did Mohammed have seizures when receiving his "messages"? (Yes or No)
I recall this, not 100% sure though. Post the exact verse pertaining to this and i'll give you the answer. I wouldn't call it a seizure though.

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3. Did Muslims worship Allah before Mohammed was born? (Yes or No)
YES

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4. Was Mohammed's first wife an Abionite Christian? (Yes or No)
I know one of his wives was christian, nothing wrong with that because christianity back then was different than what it is now

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5. Did Mohammed take the lives of other human beings and praise Allah while doing it? (Yes or No)
Be more specific with the question because i don't know what its pertaining to. Post the verse.

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6. Did Mohammed claim to make a night journey from Mecca to Jerusalem on a "flying donkey"? (Yes or No)

It wasn't a "donkey" i think its called a BAKA or something. Its not a donkey though. And there's debate on whether it was a dream or a physical ascension. Some say the ascension was made by his soul, and not his body.
The baka is not an animal that exists on earth.


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7. Did Mohammed's revelations change between Mecca and Medina? (Yes or No)

The kibla changed. The revelations were still coming, but they didn't change.

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8. Is there a single chapter in the Quran that is not insulting or verbally attacking Christians or •••s? (Yes or No)

The qu'ran doesn't insult •••s or christians. The qu'ran just finds the trinity to be no different than