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Old 12-13-2006, 11:43 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Americans live in comic book world where everything is divided into two categories.
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Ehhh, where should I start. I'm not even going to go quote by quote. It'll be an 8 page reply so I'm gonna number my replies and keep it as short and direct as possible. (This is how you deal with a discussion. You turn it into a debate and then you stretch it out as long as you can until the other person is overwhelmed by the "amount" that they have to reply to and simply walks away at which time you consider yourself a "victor" of some sort . . . anyway:
Actually no. you wrote I replied. there is no conspiracy to push you into submission by excessively writting.


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1. Muslims will NEVER take over the world.
that's just a statement. doesn't mean shit.

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2. Muslims will NEVER overthrow Israel. (If they try, it will be the total destruction of ALL Muslim nations around Israel)
again just another opinionated vague senselesss statement.



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3. There is nothing (aside from the Government) that is United in Israel. Ironic how you say Islam is going to conquer the world because the Western world is too divided and then turn around (to support your bullshit) say the complete opposite and claim that there is American Unity.
governmental states america is unity. My point was I'm not seeing it in america i'm seeing it in muslim worlds. You asked me what america meant to me.


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4. I would spend the rest of my life in America and fight and die for this Nation if America actually stood for something other than a pseudo freedom (which has become nothing more than the right to be a capitalist pig, consume until there is nothing left to consume and suck, fuck and screw anybody and everybody you encounter. America stands for nothing aside from tyranny under the guise of democracy. From the very foundation of this country there have been war after war, racism, sexism, and every evil known to man. What do Americans believe in aside from Patriotism (which is nothing more than the shell of idolatry)?
i'm not Patriot, but I know what america really stands for.
war, racism, sexism exist in every country, but you have to travel to know that fact personally. you have a religious view you're no different than the GOD HATES FAG people. Idolotry is bad according to who? God... LOL don't make me laugh.
spend two weeks in Iran and then come back and tell me america is pseudo freedom. honestly leave the country america isn't for you.

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5. I didn't even realize you wanted me to "ask" for that link. I said sure because I didn't really care all that much. @ you thinkin you accomplished something with that (kinda sad, dude)
you're not even paying attention nor do you care what I think. that's not debate you're just a closed mind.

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6. A LOAN is not a GIFT. A LOAN is paid back with interest. That benefits the government. A GIFT does not put the receiver of the GIFT in debt and benefit the GIVER. What sort of backwards ass reality are you dwelling, guy?
7. Googling? I speak Hebrew, bud. The only reason you didn't know what I said is because "you" tried to google it and came up with nothing. So you googled an insult. Let's be honest.
you're still borrowing from the government that you hate. so you're still a hypocrite no matter how you try to justicify it. you don't speak hebrew. LOL!
you google hebrew.

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Wow, that was easier than I thought. Take out all the repetitive bullshit and it was summed up in 7 simple replies. Amazing how your type works and how easily your type is destroyed when put against my type.
what type are you? The middle class bitcher, who stands for nothing.
you're rebuttle was a poor assement of my argument. i hate to break your little bubble of doltishness. You can't follow a coversation. You're context is always out of wack.

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America COULD have been a beautiful Nation.
It has become a cemetary full of dead men and women who eat, sleep, and live out their entire lives cut off from the rest of the world believing that the rest of the world doesn't exist, until they attack America, at which time they become the "Bad Guys" and America tries to play "Good Guy" and the entire world is offended by them.
America is a wonderful nation. You just don't accept her because she has some flaws. every country has flaws, you want utopia. utopia doesn't exist. Unless you move to your own island. Actually the rest of the world doesn't give a shit about americans.America did nothing wrong to Osma,he had no right to kill Americans. Look where you're mind is you justify the killing of about 3,000 americas because we dislike the notion of european opinion telling us we are all evil people.
they have skid marks in their underwear too. they can't caste stones when they themselves are sinners too. funny how the american people have no distain for europeans. it's even funnier the majority of americans are against the iraq war.
and disagree with bush. your a hater.you wouldn't be happy anywhere azue.


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You go on living your delusional existence, pal.
Time will sort everything out.
In 70 years we'll both be dead and this conversation won't matter.
this coming from the kid who think God exist because a bible verse brainwashed him. you're a sage now?
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Americans live in comic book world where everything is divided into two categories.

speaking of a comic book world, still reading the bible?
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Actually no. you wrote I replied. there is no conspiracy to push you into submission by excessively writting.
I posted one page, you replied with four.
You don't even realize that you do it.
You learned somwhere along the line that if you talk more, it will appear as if you are right. Just isn't the case, cookie.


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that's just a statement. doesn't mean shit.
Like I said, time will tell.


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again just another opinionated vague senselesss statement.
Opinion - No, it's a fact
Vague - Maybe
Senseless - If your perception is our reality


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i'm not Patriot, but I know what america really stands for.
war, racism, sexism exist in every country, but you have to travel to know that fact personally.
I've been to the Philippines, Tailand, Japan, and China; Germany, Russia, Poland and Chechnya. I've been to Israel AND Egypt. Will be going to Western Europe this Summer and have been all over the United States INCLUDING Hawaii and Alaska.

And you've been where? St. Louis? Kansas City?

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you have a religious view you're no different than the GOD HATES FAG people.
For fucks sake, kid.
If you're going to compare me to religious zealot morons who think God has a fuckin personality then this conversation is finished.

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Idolotry is bad according to who? God... LOL don't make me laugh.
spend two weeks in Iran and then come back and tell me america is pseudo freedom. honestly leave the country america isn't for you.
Idolatry is bad because it holds you back mentally, moron. It has nothing to do with "God saying so." I thought you studied Buddhism. Talking to you is like having a conversation with a donkey. It's goddamn conversational hopscotch. You don't want to fuckin learn anything. You don't even want to understand what the other person is saying. You just want to be right. All the time. And very rarely are.
The only time you're right in our debates is when you repeat shit I already said back to me as if you're informing me of something. What's even more mind boggling is that there are actually people dumb enough on this site to think you're intelligent.


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you're not even paying attention nor do you care what I think. that's not debate you're just a closed mind.


What do you think Menaz?
Break it down for me. (Try to focus on one direction at a time, ok?)
We can't carry a conversation that moves in 10 different directions.


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you're still borrowing from the government that you hate. so you're still a hypocrite no matter how you try to justicify it. you don't speak hebrew. LOL!
you google hebrew.
I'm borrowing from banks.
I didn't actually take out any Federal Loans.
And yes, I do speak Hebrew.
I also speak Tsalagi, Tagalog, Latin, and am currently learning Arabic and will move on to Aramaic. I understand both Spanish and French perfectly well. I just can't speak them for some reason. (I have trouble 'speaking' the feminine languages).

My wife speaks Polish (obviously), Russian, German, and Italian. You have no idea who I am or what I'm here to do. You think that I am like you and everybody else on this site because that's exactly what I want you to think. Remember, every mood change, every personality shift, every character I've created, and lie I've mixed in with the truth serves its purpose. There is a reason that I keep to myself, my family and do nothing but study. There's a reason why I'm 25 years old and don't go to clubs, drink alcohol, smoke weed, (or cigarettes anymore), or eat Beef or Pork.

Seriously, if you want respect from me and you want to be spoken to (replied to) in a respectful manner, all you have to do is show me that same courtesy. It's amazing how easy it is to get along with me, if you speak to me the way you should. (Not surpisingly it is just as easy to hate me as it is to love me. People always hate the man (or woman) who destroys their ego).


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what type are you? The middle class bitcher, who stands for nothing.


You'll have this answer when the time comes.

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you're rebuttle was a poor assement of my argument. i hate to break your little bubble of doltishness. You can't follow a coversation. You're context is always out of wack.
No, you just can't understand me.
I'm speaking very clearly and very directly but you can't hear me.
I'm not surprised. I'm not the first person who has encountered this.

I'm pointing to a mountain and speaking of the eruption which is going to happen and you're staring at my finger telling me that what I'm saying doesn't make sense.


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America is a wonderful nation. You just don't accept her because she has some flaws.
That's an understatement.


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every country has flaws, you want utopia. utopia doesn't exist. Unless you move to your own island. Actually the rest of the world doesn't give a shit about americans.America did nothing wrong to Osma,he had no right to kill Americans. Look where you're mind is you justify the killing of about 3,000 americas because we dislike the notion of european opinion telling us we are all evil people.
they have skid marks in their underwear too. they can't caste stones when they themselves are sinners too. funny how the american people have no distain for europeans. it's even funnier the majority of americans are against the iraq war.
and disagree with bush. your a hater.you wouldn't be happy anywhere azue.
Stop trying to apply Yeshua's words to GOVERNMENTS.
His words were meant for INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE, not POLITICAL SYSTEMS.


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this coming from the kid who think God exist because a bible verse brainwashed him. you're a sage now?
Why do you continuously refer to me as though I am a Christian.
Why does the quoting of Yeshua disturb you so much? I'm not a Christian.
I don't consider Yeshua a Man-God. He was a man. The Bible hasn't brainwashed me, dumbass. I just understand the message in HIS words. I don't even read the rest of the New Testament (which is considered "The Bible") since the Old Testament is the Tanakh and Torah.

I also read the Dhammapada, I-Ching, Tao Te Ching, Quran, Gnostic Texts, Book of Secrets, Turba Philosophorum, Won Buddhist Canonical Bible, Zen Buddhism, Pyramid Texts, Egyptian Book of The Dead, The Builders, The Dionysian Artificers, The Kojiki, Nihongi, Mahanirvana Tantra, Shanti and Shakta, The Garden of Pleasure, Decartes, Emerson, Berkley, Epictetus, Hume, Kant, Mill, Leibnitz, Nietzsche, Thoreau, and Plato, The Prophecies of Paracelsus, Kama Sutra, Ananga Ranga, Rig Vedas . . .

Man, you have no idea how much and how long I've been studying.
You've cracked open a few books and skimmed over them and speak against God and act as if I am a Christian simply because I quote Yeshua?
You blaspheme Yahowaah, Yahoshua and the Spirit.

You're a fool.
When Yeshua said:
"If a man blasphemes El Abba, he will be forgiven. If a man blasphemes El Benei, he will be forgiven. But a man who blasphemes El Hokhmah will never be forgiven; not in this world or the one to come."

Hopefully one day your eyes are opened to the truth.
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I posted one page, you replied with four.You don't even realize that you do it. You learned somwhere along the line that if you talk more, it will appear as if you are right. Just isn't the case, cookie.
My reply took more than one page. I'm not doing it intentionally.







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Like I said, time will tell.
Whatever!



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Opinion - No, it's a fact
Vague - Maybe
Senseless - If your perception is our reality
Pointless response. Still just throwing out you're opinion.



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I've been to the Philippines, Tailand, Japan, and China; Germany, Russia, Poland and Chechnya. I've been to Israel AND Egypt. Will be going to Western Europe this Summer and have been all over the United States INCLUDING Hawaii and Alaska.
Yeah on google earth.

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And you've been where? St. Louis? Kansas City?
I have been to Kwait, Iraq, mexico, amsterdam, Italy, south Africa, france, england, and Egypt as well.





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For fucks sake, kid.
If you're going to compare me to religious zealot morons who think God has a fuckin personality then this conversation is finished.
I stick by my words you're no different than the God hates fag people.



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Idolatry is bad because it holds you back mentally, moron. It has nothing to do with "God saying so." I thought you studied Buddhism. Talking to you is like having a conversation with a donkey. It's goddamn conversational hopscotch. You don't want to fuckin learn anything. You don't even want to understand what the other person is saying. You just want to be right. All the time. And very rarely are.
The only time you're right in our debates is when you repeat shit I already said back to me as if you're informing me of something. What's even more mind boggling is that there are actually people dumb enough on this site to think you're intelligent.
Actually God said not to worship Idols, MORON. Idolatry isn't holding anyone back mentally but you. You base everything on superstition. " if you step on a crack you'll break your mothers back." type of nonsense. I studied the Vedic religion doesn't mean I agree with everything it had to offer.A Conversation with you is pointless like playing hide and go seek with a blind person. You're the One emotionally attacking 24/7. I think people know your the one that wants to be right ALL THE TIME. I'm not right all the time, Please Everything you speak on you either learned from me or from someone else on this site. You're acting like 5th grader "Don't speak on anything I mentioned." Blah! Shut up, You're nothing dude. You're a waste of life, You come on the internet and make pointless rediculous threads. You're a emotinal stupid shit.




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What do you think Menaz?
Break it down for me. (Try to focus on one direction at a time, ok?)
We can't carry a conversation that moves in 10 different directions.
I thought you liked conversation in many directions. What Can't keep up?
Exactly my point, You haven't paid attention anything.






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I'm borrowing from banks.
I didn't actually take out any Federal Loans.
And yes, I do speak Hebrew.
I also speak Tsalagi, Tagalog, Latin, and am currently learning Arabic and will move on to Aramaic. I understand both Spanish and French perfectly well. I just can't speak them for some reason. (I have trouble 'speaking' the feminine languages).
Federal Reserve System controls all the money supply to banks.
The money in your pocket is from the Government. The fact you're even
getting an American education is hypocritical. You bash Americans and America yet accept the education here and the government money to go to school with. If America is corrupt why get a education here? YOU MAKE NOSENSE!


You're fake to me. I would never assocate with you. You wanna play games
I'ma grown man motherfucker, Go play your games with a ten yearold.

No, you don't speak Hebrew you google it. you know a few words.
No, You can't speak any of those languages fluently nor do you understand them. You can't speak shit but english. You're a Lair. Save it!
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My wife speaks Polish (obviously), Russian, German, and Italian. You have no idea who I am or what I'm here to do. You think that I am like you and everybody else on this site because that's exactly what I want you to think. Remember, every mood change, every personality shift, every character I've created, and lie I've mixed in with the truth serves its purpose. There is a reason that I keep to myself, my family and do nothing but study. There's a reason why I'm 25 years old and don't go to clubs, drink alcohol, smoke weed, (or cigarettes anymore), or eat Beef or Pork.
Your wife being a Pole explains her stupidity. You're wife couldn't even find her way through a lite room. And I don't care what you are on here for. You're nothing.And The reason you do those things is because noone wants to be around you. You're a recluse who humps his religious text every night. You're a BORE FEST. You're not making moves, You're fooling yourself, wasting life away. I honestly don't give a shit about your reasons either. To me You're just a complete Nobody with a inferiority complex that has no common sense.




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Seriously, if you want respect from me and you want to be spoken to (replied to) in a respectful manner, all you have to do is show me that same courtesy. It's amazing how easy it is to get along with me, if you speak to me the way you should. (Not surpisingly it is just as easy to hate me as it is to love me. People always hate the man (or woman) who destroys their ego).
I spoke very nice to you for 4 pages. You started the name calling. You always do.I'll talk to you like were a footstool if I feelt so inclinded. I don't hate you I don't like you, I have my own reasons for responding to you.
you destoried yourself.





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You're Bitch made!



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No, you just can't understand me.
I'm speaking very clearly and very directly but you can't hear me.
I'm not surprised. I'm not the first person who has encountered this.
This coming from a guy who doesn't even pay attention to shit.

I understand you. You're a goofball, pompous ass, trouble-maker, jobless, nonsense conversationalist. You do everything to provoke a reaction. Good, bad, doesn't matter. As long as your receiving the attention.

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I'm pointing to a mountain and speaking of the eruption which is going to happen and you're staring at my finger telling me that what I'm saying doesn't make sense.
Actually you're typing nonsense through a computure screen.

Seems we've equally created a Ad hominem argument.





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That's an understatement.
So is your entire exitence.


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Stop trying to apply Yeshua's words to GOVERNMENTS.
His words were meant for INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE, not POLITICAL SYSTEMS.
I'll do what I want. I LIVE IN AMERICA!

Don't like it, FUCK OFF!



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Why do you continuously refer to me as though I am a Christian.
Why does the quoting of Yeshua disturb you so much? I'm not a Christian.
I don't consider Yeshua a Man-God. He was a man. The Bible hasn't brainwashed me, dumbass. I just understand the message in HIS words. I don't even read the rest of the New Testament (which is considered "The Bible") since the Old Testament is the Tanakh and Torah.
Yet you've read the bible. All I said was the word bible and that god doesn't exist. Nothing about christians or jesus.

Christian, •••ish, gnostic, muslim, Buddahist, Hindu, baptist. Whatever the fuck, You're all full of shit. And those aren't Jesus words, MORON. Those are the words of other men. •••s don't believe in Christ period, unless they are Judeo-Christians. Which is one of the reasons paul designed his religion. Theres no Empirical evidence Jesus ever existed.

By the way, What does JESUS have to do with me saying you believe in a GOD that does not exist. Last time i checked JESUS wasn't GOD and you agree.



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I also read the Dhammapada, I-Ching, Tao Te Ching, Quran, Gnostic Texts, Book of Secrets, Turba Philosophorum, Won Buddhist Canonical Bible, Zen Buddhism, Pyramid Texts, Egyptian Book of The Dead, The Builders, The Dionysian Artificers, The Kojiki, Nihongi, Mahanirvana Tantra, Shanti and Shakta, The Garden of Pleasure, Decartes, Emerson, Berkley, Epictetus, Hume, Kant, Mill, Leibnitz, Nietzsche, Thoreau, and Plato, The Prophecies of Paracelsus, Kama Sutra, Ananga Ranga, Rig Vedas . . .
You're wasting your time and you're still ignorant. But hey, ignorance is bless.


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Man, you have no idea how much and how long I've been studying.You've cracked open a few books and skimmed over them and speak against God and act as if I am a Christian simply because I quote Yeshua? You blaspheme Yahowaah, Yahoshua and the Spirit.
I have a college degree, dummy. You don't no a fucking thing about me.
I've cracked more than a FEW.







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You're a fool.
When Yeshua said:
"If a man blasphemes El Abba, he will be forgiven. If a man blasphemes El Benei, he will be forgiven. But a man who blasphemes El Hokhmah will never be forgiven; not in this world or the one to come."
I'ma fool like a fox. "The fool do think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool."

You believe if you Blaspheme the WORD/NAME of "El Hokhmah" the religious texts won't forgive you. religious text is Opium for the masses.
Fuck your supreme God.




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Hopefully one day your eyes are opened to the truth.
I have the TRUTH. And it didn't take Tetragrammaton to get.
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You know what, I'm done with this conversation.
It's going nowhere. We're both stubborn assholes.

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Side Note: You have misunderstood ME and EVERYTHING I say because you are reading my words through the prism of your own preconceived ideas.

Blaspheming (speaking against) Hokhmah (wisdom) is unforgivable.
Why? Because the fool who blasphemes wisdom, will never open himself to it. And that's why I'm walking away. You cannot be taught. You've chosen the wrong path and you'll walk it the rest of your life.
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If I meet you in person. RUN the other way!

Are you mad?

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You know what cracks me up the most? It's like RM is a river with many creeks (the spec being one of my favorite) and I'm a fly fisherman. I walk out here with my little round hat on, sit down on a rock and observe the water from the shade of a willow tree, drink a bottle of water, spot a giant trout in the creek and then snatch a dragonfly out of the air . . . walk out and wade in the water a little bit and flip the line around in a figure 8 motion, teasting Menaz (that big "fish") luring his sucker ass in.

Next thing you know this negro is snagged on my line . . . . I'm just slowly toyin with him, lettin off a little bit on the line from time to time and then I suddenly jerk his bitch ass back. When I finally pull him out of the water I lift him up, look him in the eyes and smile at him and throw his lame ass back in the water, let him rest for few days and then come back and repeat the process and the moron always bites again.

Fact - ALL of the scriptures of the "Son of God" or "Messiah Figure" are referring to THE SUN in the ZODIAC. "Jesus" has 12 Disciples, there's 12 signs in the zodiac. Jesus fed the people with two fish. The two fish are Pisces (The Zodiac which we are currently in). This age ends in 2012 and a new age (the age of Aquarius) begins. The entire life of "Christ" has been told time and time again. Horus, Krishna, Buddha, Yeshua, The Coming King Messiah.

The "Mashiach" (Anointed One) is a Virgin Born Child (Virgin = Virgo The Virgin).
The Sphinx represents the "King Messiah" born between the signs of Leo and Virgo (Body of a Lion / Head of the Virgo) who guards the Pyramid and what did Jesus say in the Bible about the Pyramid ("I am the capstone") The capstone is the top of the pyramid. This is why Masons have the EYE on the Capstone on our dollar bills because it represents Horus AND Jesus.

Next time you think about saying . . . "It doesn't mean anything and it's all bullshit!" Remind yourself of that fact. If the majority of the world expects it and refuses to move forward until that person is born . . . that person will be born and will rise up out of necessity. The entire UNIVERSE is governed by electricity. The Sun doesn't give off energy . . . it receives, amplifies and reflects it back. But science keeps teaching the opposite. Why? Because they don't have a fuckin clue and they're regurgitating off theories that Einstein himself disproved and said were impossible. It's the "Flat Earth" situation all over again except now they're doing it with the universe. It's not gravity that keeps the planets / galaxies / and universe in motion. It's electrical currents and plasma reactions. The same electricity that moves ALL THROUGH the ENTIRE UNIVERSE moves through us as well. THAT is GOD! Got it?




Note the ILLUMINATED HEAD: (Sun behind the head)







You think it's a coincidence?
Four different areas of the world all believing in SEPERATE PEOPLE who all lived VERY SIMILAR LIFES and taught the SAME EXACT MESSAGE?

Even the names of the cities that they were born in mean the same thing.
The places they died in mean the same thing. That wasn't planned or controlled. People didn't rename cities to make Yeshua fit the pattern.

Of course these men are just men. But they are ENLIGHTENED MEN who are able to see what others cannot see. They were born at the right time under the right sign with the right energy. That's it, that's all.
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