Computer Seems To Freeze With Alot of Takes - DOCTAH?

Mr. Verbalist · 07-20-2005, 03:58 AM

It's mostly with my boy, he's an R&B singer and has alot of tracks because of harmony and adlibs and blah blah all that shit. It's on a CEP session. It may be the way I mix, that kills my speed. I'll record all the takes, I'd say for him it's usually around 50-60 tracks. I go into each track (editing form) and compress each track individually (I know it takes forever) ... Then I'll go to FX find the proper EQ while playing it with the beat, then save it as a preset. Then I go to all the other tracks and press FX and use the shit I just saved. Then I individually go into each track (editing form) and add a reverb to my liking. I know there is faster and more sufficient ways, I believe. After I mix half the tracks and listen to the playback it'll take a few seconds for it to play and the computer freezes and I lose all my frickin' tracks. Is this because I'm mixing the wrong way by doing the shit individually? or do I need a faster processor? I have 512MB of RAM and a 2.4GHz processor.

Any help please?

doctah · 07-20-2005, 09:05 AM

50 tracks?

If you're using that many tracks - I would get more ram. Especially if you're trying to use FX for them all. You're asking a lot of your PC.

...and I would try using a different program. I'm a big fan of CEP - but I would think something like Cubase would work better when you have that many tracks in one session....especially when you're trying to put that many FX/Tracks in one session.

Maybe try bouncing some of those tracks/takes down before you start putting reverb on them.

Most importantly - organize yourself. If I were you, I would have a folder for the song. Every now and then, save the different takes and individual components of the song (and the session too!).

...but I can admit - a song with 50 tracks is out of my league. I'm more on the hobbyist tip. I feel like I'm doing big time shit when I have 10 tracks

- hopefully someone else w/ more experience will hop in.

Arcane · 07-20-2005, 03:26 PM

50 tracks?!?! holy crap

i wouldnt even use that many if i was recording a 6 peice band lmao

your probably doing way to many takes....

anyways, invest in some more ram

|Tech| · 07-20-2005, 06:05 PM

Yeah, with all those tracks, your gonna need about 2 gigs of fast memory -- it'll help a lot with memory-leakage, too. Also, remember to update to the latest drivers, and make sure their working properly.

ATownUp · 07-20-2005, 06:46 PM

you are haveing what is called a dropout....try changing your buffer size to a higher number....for example if its set at 165 put it up to 256 than 456 and so on until the problem stops....

Mr. Verbalist · 07-21-2005, 10:40 AM

Where I go to change that?

Is 50 tracks really alot for a singer? Well even when I rap on a song, it's about 20 tracks.

Thanks for all the help, this problem has been happening for a while now.

[Free Quincy] · 07-21-2005, 10:59 AM

50 Tracks.. Jesus Christ.

l Lil Kay l · 07-21-2005, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Verbalist

Is 50 tracks really alot for a singer? Well even when I rap on a song, it's about 20 tracks.

ummmm heck yeah...the most i use when i sing..is 15-20 (and thats pushin it). When I rap...the most I have is like 7 or 8 usually less though (being that I don't do adlibs much)

Mr. Verbalist · 07-21-2005, 02:24 PM

^ When you sing, do you do harmony and everything? When he sings and does "harmony" or whatever he double's up 6 times, 2 times for his hi's, 2 times for his mid's, and 2 times for his low's ...

Listen to http://www.soundclick.com/thegeniuses
"Tell Me Why You Left Me Feat. C-Mac" He did the hook for me, that took I'd say about 15 tracks for just the hook.

Arcane · 07-21-2005, 05:57 PM

record in stages....do all the instrumental stuff at one time, mix it down to one track, then do all the main vocals, mix that to the instrumental track, do backup vocals, mix that in, do something else, etc, etc, etc...

thats how its typically done in a studio anyways...especially if your only using a small console haha...

l Lil Kay l · 07-22-2005, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Verbalist

^ When you sing, do you do harmony and everything? When he sings and does "harmony" or whatever he double's up 6 times, 2 times for his hi's, 2 times for his mid's, and 2 times for his low's ... .

Nah..Im just getting into it (learning) but once I get going I may be the same way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Verbalist

Listen to http://www.soundclick.com/thegeniuses
"Tell Me Why You Left Me Feat. C-Mac" He did the hook for me, that took I'd say about 15 tracks for just the hook.

He has a nice voice.

Mr. Verbalist · 07-23-2005, 12:10 AM

I'ma try that @ Arcane.

And thanks @ Lil Kay. He's a good singer.

BoDi · 07-24-2005, 10:41 PM

yo mr verbalist someone referred me to you about your singer. b/c i am working on an R&B mixtape..i heard his music..i'm feelin it. i added u to my buddy list but u don't be on.

i'd like to work with him..i got some serious R&B tracks for him..

e-mail - bodirock@gmail.com or AIM xbodirock

thanks

07-20-2005, 03:58 AM	#1 (permalink)
Mr. Verbalist HAHAHAHA Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginia!! Posts: 1,808	Computer Seems To Freeze With Alot of Takes - DOCTAH? It's mostly with my boy, he's an R&B singer and has alot of tracks because of harmony and adlibs and blah blah all that shit. It's on a CEP session. It may be the way I mix, that kills my speed. I'll record all the takes, I'd say for him it's usually around 50-60 tracks. I go into each track (editing form) and compress each track individually (I know it takes forever) ... Then I'll go to FX find the proper EQ while playing it with the beat, then save it as a preset. Then I go to all the other tracks and press FX and use the shit I just saved. Then I individually go into each track (editing form) and add a reverb to my liking. I know there is faster and more sufficient ways, I believe. After I mix half the tracks and listen to the playback it'll take a few seconds for it to play and the computer freezes and I lose all my frickin' tracks. Is this because I'm mixing the wrong way by doing the shit individually? or do I need a faster processor? I have 512MB of RAM and a 2.4GHz processor. Any help please? __________________ [Verbalist] [Verbalist Mp3s] - Click Here!

07-20-2005, 09:05 AM	#2 (permalink)
doctah I know how to do that... Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: 770xx Posts: 3,747	50 tracks? If you're using that many tracks - I would get more ram. Especially if you're trying to use FX for them all. You're asking a lot of your PC. ...and I would try using a different program. I'm a big fan of CEP - but I would think something like Cubase would work better when you have that many tracks in one session....especially when you're trying to put that many FX/Tracks in one session. Maybe try bouncing some of those tracks/takes down before you start putting reverb on them. Most importantly - organize yourself. If I were you, I would have a folder for the song. Every now and then, save the different takes and individual components of the song (and the session too!). ...but I can admit - a song with 50 tracks is out of my league. I'm more on the hobbyist tip. I feel like I'm doing big time shit when I have 10 tracks - hopefully someone else w/ more experience will hop in. __________________ ...and that too.

07-21-2005, 10:40 AM	#6 (permalink)
Mr. Verbalist HAHAHAHA Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginia!! Posts: 1,808	Where I go to change that? Is 50 tracks really alot for a singer? Well even when I rap on a song, it's about 20 tracks. Thanks for all the help, this problem has been happening for a while now. __________________ [Verbalist] [Verbalist Mp3s] - Click Here!

07-21-2005, 10:59 AM	#7 (permalink)
[Free Quincy] The Acapella Whore Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Orlando, FL. Posts: 37,071	50 Tracks.. Jesus Christ. __________________ MELLOW MADNESS www.soundclick.com/mellowmadness www.myspace.com/mellowmadness

07-21-2005, 02:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
Mr. Verbalist HAHAHAHA Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginia!! Posts: 1,808	^ When you sing, do you do harmony and everything? When he sings and does "harmony" or whatever he double's up 6 times, 2 times for his hi's, 2 times for his mid's, and 2 times for his low's ... Listen to http://www.soundclick.com/thegeniuses "Tell Me Why You Left Me Feat. C-Mac" He did the hook for me, that took I'd say about 15 tracks for just the hook. __________________ [Verbalist] [Verbalist Mp3s] - Click Here!

07-20-2005, 03:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
Arcane Alcoholic Roadie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 6,899	50 tracks?!?! holy crap i wouldnt even use that many if i was recording a 6 peice band lmao your probably doing way to many takes.... anyways, invest in some more ram

07-20-2005, 06:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
\|Tech\| Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 117	Yeah, with all those tracks, your gonna need about 2 gigs of fast memory -- it'll help a lot with memory-leakage, too. Also, remember to update to the latest drivers, and make sure their working properly.

07-20-2005, 06:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
ATownUp Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 56	you are haveing what is called a dropout....try changing your buffer size to a higher number....for example if its set at 165 put it up to 256 than 456 and so on until the problem stops....

07-21-2005, 05:57 PM	#10 (permalink)
Arcane Alcoholic Roadie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 6,899	record in stages....do all the instrumental stuff at one time, mix it down to one track, then do all the main vocals, mix that to the instrumental track, do backup vocals, mix that in, do something else, etc, etc, etc... thats how its typically done in a studio anyways...especially if your only using a small console haha...

07-23-2005, 12:10 AM	#12 (permalink)
Mr. Verbalist HAHAHAHA Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Virginia!! Posts: 1,808	I'ma try that @ Arcane. And thanks @ Lil Kay. He's a good singer. __________________ [Verbalist] [Verbalist Mp3s] - Click Here!

07-24-2005, 10:41 PM	#13 (permalink)
BoDi Still bodirock Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Michigan Posts: 11,647	yo mr verbalist someone referred me to you about your singer. b/c i am working on an R&B mixtape..i heard his music..i'm feelin it. i added u to my buddy list but u don't be on. i'd like to work with him..i got some serious R&B tracks for him.. e-mail - bodirock@gmail.com or AIM xbodirock thanks __________________ "Watch your thoughts; they become words. Watch your words; they become actions. Watch your actions; they become habits. Watch your habits; they become character. Watch your character; it becomes your destiny." - Frank Outlaw

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