Monogamy

Brit Boi Gee · 05-01-2005, 09:07 AM

Apparently, from the dung beatle to the lioness there is no evidence atall that females were built for monogamy. so do you think it should follow that women are not built for it either?

Ignorant · 05-01-2005, 03:26 PM

I don't really follow that logic, though. Just because we're not "built for" something, doesn't give us license to do otherwise.

Aggression is also a natural instinct, but it's not okay to murder. Is it?

Brit Boi Gee · 05-01-2005, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ignorant

I don't really follow that logic, though. Just because we're not "built for" something, doesn't give us license to do otherwise.

Aggression is also a natural instinct, but it's not okay to murder. Is it?

Well, that is what we are trying to discern. Should evidence like this give people license to do otherwise, and if not, why? Perhaps It should just be a case of saying that these things are what seperate us from animals, but its not quite as simple as that because monogamy is not the standard which everyone aspires to. Leading from this are many questions regarding natural/unnaturalness/benefits vs disadvantages of monagamy and repression and the possible side effects of that state.

MiSt_Of_CoNfUsIoN · 05-01-2005, 05:11 PM

I don't think we were built to wear stillettos either, but it happens.. The logic is the same to me. We evolve ( not that shoes come into serious play regarding that, but you know where I'm headed) monogomy wasn't always the accepted way of life.. but as things evolved our expectations changed and now its become the most accepted way of life in some places.

Brit Boi Gee · 05-01-2005, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MiSt_Of_CoNfUsIoN

I don't think we were built to wear stillettos either, but it happens.. The logic is the same to me. We evolve ( not that shoes come into serious play regarding that, but you know where I'm headed) monogomy wasn't always the accepted way of life.. but as things evolved our expectations changed and now its become the most accepted way of life in some places.

but just because it is the most accepted way of life in some places, does that mean we should disregard the info in the innitial post that relates to females not naturally being mongamous?
should we ignore the pain which stilettos do to our our feet because of their the advances of fashion are more important?

skandelous_lala · 05-06-2005, 05:27 AM

No we don't hafta disregard it, but if it doesn't pertain to the way we think why hold onto it? Disregarding it seems like the proper thing to do.

Science can keep saying we are not built for monogomy, but so what? To me that is great and all, but perhaps I am built for monogomy. That is what makes me happy, so why reject it?

Some animals are monogamous. I don't see people as being "animals" either though, but that's a whole other thing.

Obviously it works for some people and for other people it doesn't work.

"Should evidence like this give people license to do otherwise, and if not, why? "

^^B/c of the morals of society. Maybe morals isn't the right word..I often wonder how many society as a whole has left, but anyways....it's a nuture thing...this is what we are programmed to believe...(I'm speaking generally)If we were programmed with the opposite ..it would be the same arguement flipped.

To me it boils down that we aren't just animals that do what other animals do. Other animals don't have the logic and emotions of humans.

05-01-2005, 09:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
Brit Boi Gee manifest the zen Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Near To Athena Posts: 14,947	Monogamy Apparently, from the dung beatle to the lioness there is no evidence atall that females were built for monogamy. so do you think it should follow that women are not built for it either? __________________ I suppose to have now some of that unbridled ambition of a few years ago (though full of incidental ignorance) would serve me well at this moment in time. Brit Boi has a highly calibrated wifermometer Last edited by Brit Boi Gee; 05-01-2005 at 09:10 AM.

05-01-2005, 03:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ignorant Village Idiot Join Date: May 2004 Location: edge of sanity Posts: 9,276	I don't really follow that logic, though. Just because we're not "built for" something, doesn't give us license to do otherwise. Aggression is also a natural instinct, but it's not okay to murder. Is it? __________________ "It would be better not to know so many things, than to know so many things that are not so." - Felix Okoye "The learning and knowledge that we have is at the most, but little compared with that of which we are ignorant." - Plato "How can we remember our ignorance, which our growth requires, when we're using our knowledge all the time?" - Henry David Thoreau

05-01-2005, 05:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
MiSt_Of_CoNfUsIoN Ray of Sunshine Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Washington Posts: 15,301	I don't think we were built to wear stillettos either, but it happens.. The logic is the same to me. We evolve ( not that shoes come into serious play regarding that, but you know where I'm headed) monogomy wasn't always the accepted way of life.. but as things evolved our expectations changed and now its become the most accepted way of life in some places. __________________ "Let your life reflect what comes outta your mouth"

05-06-2005, 05:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
skandelous_lala back from the dead Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hey! Fuck you and the horse you rode in on! Posts: 26,692	No we don't hafta disregard it, but if it doesn't pertain to the way we think why hold onto it? Disregarding it seems like the proper thing to do. Science can keep saying we are not built for monogomy, but so what? To me that is great and all, but perhaps I am built for monogomy. That is what makes me happy, so why reject it? Some animals are monogamous. I don't see people as being "animals" either though, but that's a whole other thing. Obviously it works for some people and for other people it doesn't work. "Should evidence like this give people license to do otherwise, and if not, why? " ^^B/c of the morals of society. Maybe morals isn't the right word..I often wonder how many society as a whole has left, but anyways....it's a nuture thing...this is what we are programmed to believe...(I'm speaking generally)If we were programmed with the opposite ..it would be the same arguement flipped. To me it boils down that we aren't just animals that do what other animals do. Other animals don't have the logic and emotions of humans. __________________ ALL YOU REALLY KNOW IS WHAT I CHOOSE TO SHOW Good Mourning, Good afternoon, Good nite, what have you done with your life?. Everybody's time comes to be embraced by the light you only afraid to die when you ain't livin right

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