Destiny's Child foolishly lauds 'soldiers'

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Old 01-23-2005, 04:24 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Destiny's Child foolishly lauds 'soldiers'
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I DON'T mean to put my sister's business in the street, but the last thing she needs is a "soldier." She's 26, a single mother of the most defiant 2-year-old on the planet and she holds down two jobs. Like many homegirls I know from around the way, my sister has issues on top of issues. But she pines for a "soldier," a straight-up thug as celebrated in the new hit by Destiny's Child. While I was visiting my family in Arkansas during Christmas, she cranked it up on her car stereo as we zoomed down the highway to an aunt's house.

"Yeah, that's what I'm talkin' about right there," my sister exclaimed.

If your status ain't hood/I ain't checking for ya/Better be street if he looking at me/ I need a soldier/That ain't scared to stand up for me/Known to carry big things if you know what I mean ...

My more progressive-minded friends and I have a huge problem with Destiny's Child's "Soldier," which features rappers T.I. and Lil' Wayne and currently sits in the Top 5 on Billboard's pop chart. It is catchy, but the beat is trite, and the lyrical message is downright trifling. Now, I'm not sticking a turban on my head and joining C. Delores Tucker's crusade to wipe out offensive music. I actually dig some stuff that's too hot for radio. (And Lord knows my mouth isn't exactly, uh, politically correct.) But my problem with "Soldier" is that it glorifies a warped image of black masculinity. And I've just about had it with the artless thuggery pervading R&B - thanks to folks like R. Kelly.

We like them boys that be in them 'lacs leaning/Open they mouth they grill gleaming ...

I've despised self-destructive, so-called soldiers all my life - those shiftless, no-count dudes who stroll around the 'hood as if they own it, the ones white boys fear and envy. The guys who have probably fathered a baby or two or three but are not fathers. The fellas who always have an attitude as if, to paraphrase Mavis Staples, "the world owes them something 'cause they're here." These soldiers probably possess the brains to be legitimate businessmen, yet they run two-bit hustles that will ultimately land them in jail or in an early grave.

Perhaps from time to time you have run into a soldier. He and his crew are always loud and profane in public places. He brushes past you in the mall and never says "excuse me." I knew plenty of soldiers in high school. Like flies, they hovered in the back of the bus or in the hallways; they smoked reefer in the restroom and harassed nerds like me between classes. They were corny, really, and most of them grew up to be absolutely nothing or died too soon. Soldiers. If we are to believe the three once-innocuous chicks of Destiny's Child, these guys are now glorious sex symbols.

And women like my sister aren't the only ones craving soldiers. A close gay friend of mine (a well-paid, educated cat whose name I'll keep to myself) actively pursues what he calls "homo-soldiers."

I like them boys over there they looking strong tonight/Just might give one the phone tonight/Homie in the Dickies in my zone tonight/He don't know it might be on tonight ...

So Destiny's Child has gone all hood rat on us. Tsk-tsk. The gals used to be so virginal, so moralistic - at least that's what they tried to give off in interviews. But they have always sold us sex, even as teenagers on their 1998 self-titled debut. With "Soldier," a song each member had a hand in writing, they seemingly want to show us all how "gangsta," how "down" they are. In the video, Beyonce, Kelly and Michelle roll their hips in midriffs, baggy pants and Timberlands. Goodness, Michelle - the skinny one with the tinny, raspy voice who always looks as if she's scared to death - has put out two gospel albums. The self-proclaimed "church girl" of the group, she coos the sexiest verse in "Soldier": Oh he looking good and he talking right/He the type that might change my life/Every time he look at me my girls be like/That one might be the one tonight.

Just a few years back, the girls of Destiny's Child sang about being "independent women" who bought their own clothes and paid their own bills. If they're supposed to be such shining symbols of responsibility, they should put more thought into their lyrics. Or at least try to be less obvious in their pursuit of a hit. It saddened me a bit to look over at my sister, a young woman who's been through her fair share of drama with so-called soldiers, as she sang along to a record that unapologetically and stupidly celebrates the kind of brotha I hate to see coming.
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Old 01-23-2005, 08:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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A wonderful read. Ollison hits the nail right on the head.
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Old 01-23-2005, 10:49 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Agreeeeeed with everything she said. I always thought it was a stupid fuckin song and it still is.Maybe one of the dumbest songs of 2004. This is sadly what r&b came down too. Great article.
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D. C. has always been the epitome of hyprocisy.


They don't want "soldiers" (who are they fighting for anyway?)... they want the image and the bad attitude.


I tell ya... urban music is the new minstrel show.
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Agreeeeeed with everything she said. I always thought it was a stupid fuckin song and it still is.Maybe one of the dumbest songs of 2004. This is sadly what r&b came down too. Great article.
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Excellent points, I was wondering if any journalist/writer would make a point of the song. It's based on bullshit.
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great article, i haven't heard the song, but just seeing those cornball lyrics makes me glad i haven't.
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soldier is hands down, word for word, one of the stupidest songs in awhile. just listen to the lyrics, it's terrible. nobody would even care about it if lil' wayne and t.i. werent on it. they knew that and thats why they got em.
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Destiny's Child defines "pseudo-style."

Striking a buncha cheesy poses in bourgie ass fashion is NOT style.

Their subject matter has always been shallow and uppity.

Did you actually listen to the lyrics behind "no, no, no" or "nasty girl" or anything for that matter?

They're lucky they can sing. But nothing they say in ANY of their songs should be taken seriously, especially this latest effort at reaching a new audience.
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I've always been a DC fan... the song is catchy and fun... that's about as deep as I read into it. Then again I don't necessarily see the word "soldier" as having a negative connotation... not every brotha in the hood is a thug, and I don't think that's what they're saying. God knows I can't stand gold teeth, but if that's what they're into... so what.
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The British press butchered this track about 2 months ago in an interveiw with DC.

Kelly and Beyonce were speachless... whilst Michelle tried to excuse the track branding it 'growth' and expressing 'their people'. After realising she made no sense she tried to amend the statement but was interupted by the interveiwer who pointed out that they all grew up in 'white' neighbour hoods... They left.
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I love the way this writer contradicters herself within the artlicle...
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that shit set it off on fire...best part of the song
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I think the journalist is a little bit too harsh. It's a song with a catchy melody by the most popular women vocal group today. So of course people gonna enjoy the song both psychologically and sonically. Now the contents of the song is no deeper or shallow than 99.99% of what they play on most R&B/hip hop stations. Plus most girls, no matter what their economical, ethnic, or racial background is go through a phase or have a sexual appetite for rough and rugged guys (thugs). Their just singing a song that majority of their fan base (young girls) can relate to. Plus, by DC singing the song it didn't ignite this desire...this is old, the idea is nothing new. And if she wanna talk about DC, then she has to speak on majority artist, because most artist in the music industry portray that the character of what it means to be a black man and masculine is being a thug or thuggish. No girl wants to be with a punk, but just because you ain't a thug doesn't mean you're a coward. But I'm really not feeling the song either.
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The British press butchered this track about 2 months ago in an interveiw with DC.

Kelly and Beyonce were speachless... whilst Michelle tried to excuse the track branding it 'growth' and expressing 'their people'. After realising she made no sense she tried to amend the statement but was interupted by the interveiwer who pointed out that they all grew up in 'white' neighbour hoods... They left.
hahahah they got owned.
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The British press butchered this track about 2 months ago in an interveiw with DC.

Kelly and Beyonce were speachless... whilst Michelle tried to excuse the track branding it 'growth' and expressing 'their people'. After realising she made no sense she tried to amend the statement but was interupted by the interveiwer who pointed out that they all grew up in 'white' neighbour hoods... They left.
lol..nice
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