Learn Your BARZ! 1st rule in any genre of music...

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Old 06-25-2003, 04:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Learn Your BARZ! 1st rule in any genre of music...

1st thing anybody in music needs to know is what a bar is and how to write in them. VERY FEW people on here know what a bar is. Even some of the people you might think are tight don't know this and will never get any good until they do.

To learn exactly what a bar of music is you can: Look in the dictionary, talk to people who play rock music/a drummer/ or a good producer (wack ones are often wack because they don't really know either). You will never have a good flow till you know this information so don't stop after the dictionary.

Hip-hop is 4/4 timing so it should be easy for you to learn hip-hop bars. One big tip that should send you on the right track is that hip-hop bars revolve around the drums.

Example of a bar:
Bar 1--->"I'm cancerous- so when I dis, you wouldn't wanna answer this/"
Bar 2--->"if you repsonded back- wit' a battle rap, you wrote for Canibus/"
Bar 3--->"I'll strangle you to DEATH..., and then- choke you again/"
Bar 4---->"and break your fuckin' legs, till your bones poke through your skin/"

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Old 06-25-2003, 11:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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heres another example of a bar....now remember this is only one bar but its 2 lines...

My town, that created all the bass sound
Enough to shake and kick holes in the ground

thats one bar......correct me if my wrong ne1
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Old 06-27-2003, 01:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Well it seems to work out to 1.5 barz but if you set it to maybe a 80-85 bpm beat with a 90-95 bpm flow it would work and still sound right with an up beat melody layered in on the low bpm instrumental.
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bars

Is there any more information you can give on a bar....how long should they be when in 4/4 times? Also how do you know when a bars is complete and what is the Beat in the bar?? like how do you know when you have your four beats for the bar???
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on bars when you count 1 and 2 and 3 and 4, does your bar end on 4??
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Old 06-29-2003, 02:42 AM   #6 (permalink)
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When I write my lyrics, I think of a simple

kick(1), snare(2), kick(3), snare(4) where the beginning of every line is on the one, and the last word of the line is on the 4, denoted by //...... but there are words that can go past the last snare, but before the 1 again, so I write my rhymes like this.

In order to read the future we need a thesis // I
Easily bring beings to they knees with telekenesis


the "I" after thesis comes before the first wonrd of the second line, but after the word on the snare..... so it goes after the // marks

as well, if a line doesn't flow into the next line, like it stops on the snare, then I don't put any // marks up.

Cerebral treason *seeds* with evil reasons,
Leaving people to freely plead for deeper meaning // but un-
Til blah blah


it's much easier to read the flow of lines like this, I find. I hope my littls scheme catches on.
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aight it's clear now, thanks for all the insight people
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it won't come that easily, for some maybe. You can't pick up a guitar and know how to play but expext to write a instrumental or somthing if you don't know how to work the bars together....
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1bar=2 lines
How that is hard for eveyrone is beyond me..
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1 bar = 2 lines of what??
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"1bar=2 lines
How that is hard for eveyrone is beyond me.."

actually it depends, sometimes one bar is one line. actually, in musical terms, most of the time, one bar is one line.
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okay, I'll just try in forget what fiktion said. It's just easier that way....
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Why the fuck is ēēēēēs making this so complicated????????

In the 4/4 time signature which is a constant in hip hop music all you have to say is:

A bar is 4 beats:

kick/snare/kick/snare

The line should start nearest to the first kick and end on the last snare but can carry over and still keep the continuity.

16 bars to a verse for a three verse song
I prefer 8 bars for the hook

or you can go
24 bars for a two verse song
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1st thing anybody in music needs to know is what a bar is and how to write in them. VERY FEW people on here know what a bar is. Even some of the people you might think are tight don't know this and will never get any good until they do.

To learn exactly what a bar of music is you can: Look in the dictionary, talk to people who play rock music/a drummer/ or a good producer (wack ones are often wack because they don't really know either). You will never have a good flow till you know this information so don't stop after the dictionary.

Hip-hop is 4/4 timing so it should be easy for you to learn hip-hop bars. One big tip that should send you on the right track is that hip-hop bars revolve around the drums.

Example of a bar:
Bar 1--->"I'm cancerous- so when I dis, you wouldn't wanna answer this/"
Bar 2--->"if you repsonded back- wit' a battle rap, you wrote for Canibus/"
Bar 3--->"I'll strangle you to DEATH..., and then- choke you again/"
Bar 4---->"and break your fuckin' legs, till your bones poke through your skin/"

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^^WTF are you talkin about kid?
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