Originally Posted by Dex Lewis
If I may, a follow up question for you (and all the party people)
Assuming you're truly motivated by a strong internal sense of 'justice' and not just one of the more fascinating cases of malignant narcissism i've ever come across....
Don't you think there's more optimal places to get your Kiefer Sutherland in 'Phone Booth' on than rm?
Why set your targets so low? And on people whose sins are hardly worth years of harassment, no less?
Sure, people like Nimrod are cunt ups, but horrible human beings?
It's been a while since I've read the DSM-IV, however I don't ever remember the term "malignant narcissism" ever arising. My guess is you, the uneducated pseudo-intellectual, has gone straight to wikipedia (as you do for all your information). Let's assume you meant narcissistic personality disorder (NPD)...
Let's see the revised DSM criteria:
The essential features of a personality disorder are impairments in
personality (self and interpersonal) functioning and the presence of
pathological personality traits. To diagnose narcissistic personality
disorder, the following criteria must be met:
A. Significant impairments in personality functioning manifest by:
1. Impairments in self functioning (a or b):
a. Identity: Excessive reference to others for self-definition
and self-esteem regulation; exaggerated self-appraisal
may be inflated or deflated, or vacillate between extremes;
emotional regulation mirrors fluctuations in self-esteem.
b. Self-direction: Goal-setting is based on gaining approval
from others; personal standards are unreasonably high in
order to see oneself as exceptional, or too low based on a
sense of entitlement; often unaware of own motivations.
2. Impairments in interpersonal functioning (a or b):
a. Empathy: Impaired ability to recognize or identify with the
feelings and needs of others; excessively attuned to
reactions of others, but only if perceived as relevant to self;
over- or underestimate of own effect on others.
b. Intimacy: Relationships largely superficial and exist to
serve self-esteem regulation; mutuality constrained by little
genuine interest in others‟ experiences and predominance
of a need for personal gain
B. Pathological personality traits in the following domain:
1. Antagonism, characterized by:
a. Grandiosity: Feelings of entitlement, either overt or covert
self-centeredness; firmly holding to the belief that one is
better than others; condescending toward others.
b. Attention seeking: Excessive attempts to attract and be
the focus of the attention of others; admiration seeking.
C. The impairments in personality functioning and the individual‟s
personality trait expression are relatively stable across time and
consistent across situations.
D. The impairments in personality functioning and the individual‟s
personality trait expression are not better understood as normative
for the individual‟s developmental stage or socio-cultural
E. The impairments in personality functioning and the individual‟s
personality trait expression are not solely due to the direct
physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse,
medication) or a general medical condition (e.g., severe head
I don't feel that this fits me, do you?
Now, that's a bit messy, so let's go back to the simpler DSM-IV criteria.
A. A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for
admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and
present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the
1. Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates
achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior
without commensurate achievements).
You know, I thought about this. But sometimes a spade is just a spade. Sometimes somebody is simply better. I didn't think Mohammed Ali was a narcissist because he was a spectacular athlete, while you're sitting on your couch day after day guzzling twinkies
2. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power,
brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
3. Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be
understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions).
I associate with all people. The reason I never "destroyed" VERB despite his obvious intellectual impairment was that he had a good heart, I felt. He wasn't shady like a lot of you people.
4. Requires excessive admiration.
5. Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of
especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his
or her expectations.
No sense of entitlement. I've earned everything I've gotten in this life.
6. Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to
achieve his or her own ends.
7. Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the
feelings and needs of others.
No. I am all heart.