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Old 09-25-2008, 10:37 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Kris Krafft View Post
lol @ the assertion that people should know whether or not their ancestors held slaves.

Do any of you of African and Arab descent know for sure how many slaves your descendants held?

Lets not forget that slavery was not abolished in Saudi Arabia until the 1960s.
actually it was indicated that John Mcain's family, with his acknowledgements, knew that his family's wealth originated from plantation ownership. Now this is not rocket science to assume some chemistry equation. Plantations were associated with slavery and all plantations held records of the "ownership".

not too sure how well you know world history... but the beat is ... during the war of 1812 when britain had in fact abolished slavery throughout all its colonies and through the west indies, the plantation owners saw a great distance between the crown and their daily lives. In fact, should these owners have returned to England they would have been imprisoned and punished. It was throughout the 1800's that indebentureship continued in its form of slavery until its abolishment in 1917.

and yes, in fact I know the origination and history of my family and how we came to be laboured in the West Indies -

JOHN GLADSTONE, The Father of the Slave trade in the West Indies.




btw... if you held slaves in Africa and Arabia... you are sadly mistaken... you would not be in existence in America, you would continue to live in prestige in these countries. All people come from lands of kings and queens... but dont be fooled... each and every person is not a king or queen, or maintained wealth. The difference in value of life between rich and poor exist even today.

The point being... we are all people that were cultured - our own language, religion etc..., while some saw barbarians and others were superior sinners.

I want to point out that.... for many- though stolen.... this freedom that we know today... we would never have known any other way... this land, these places - would not exist with these diverse people.

grieve with gratefulness.
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