[Anidawehi]

Originally Posted by menaz

I know about religion. I know about God. I've read the Torah, new testament, Rig veda, and Quran. I've read all these books and interpet lingustically what I could. But I don't buy into everything I read.

I understand you want musilms to stop being narrow minded. All I want is for them to stop Justifing Jahid acknowledge that their religion is BULLSHIT
like every other religion. But this will never happen. They are religiously brain washed like those kids on jesus camp (it would take more than US to convice them.) They should research other religions, But they won't. Alot of people aren't open minded. I at least gave religion a shot. I at least give spirtuality a shot. I at least gave my TIME and FOCUS to all these religions and God. But in the end, I wasn't statisfied.

So you haven't ruled out the possibility of God's existence . . .
you're just saying that you looked everywhere you could, and all you found was bullshit stories added to good moral teachings by "wise men" who were later turned into Man-God's which religions have been formed around, right?

You're not saying God doesn't exist. You're just saying that you have found no evidence for yourself or any reason to believe that God does exist, or am I mistaken?

I know what you want. You want Muslims (and Christians) to start using their brain. So do I. You want Muslims and nutt job Christians (and others) to stop neglecting the physical reality that we dwell in because they have more faith in some abstract concept that there is absolutely no "empirical evidence" for, right?
So do I.

Your approach is just too aggressive. There's too much emotion in it. You want to rush them into this entirely new way of thinking and you can't do that to a person. Think back to when you was a kid and you was Christian and you believed what you believed (because you was taught it). Imagine if somebody had told you that everything you believed at that point was completely wrong and inverted. How would you have felt? To have your entire world stripped from you is a horrible feeling. It causes one to either accept anything and everything that the person who strips it away wants to teach them (which is not a good thing) or it causes them to believe in nothing at all (which is also not a good thing).

You do not have all the answers Menaz. I know that you believe you do. But you don't. Neither do I. We learn as we go.

Science CAN prove with EVIDENCE the "God," "Tao," or "Won" that Yeshua, Lao Tzu, and Buddha taught. That concept is a very real (eternal) truth. Einstein was trying to prove it while he was alive. It hasn't been proven yet, but there are many •••ish Scientists working on it. Just remember, throughout history people have taught many different things as TRUTH and provided evidence for it only to find out they were wrong as the years passed. It's popular right now to be an Atheist. It isn't very wise, but it is popular.

religious nuts are like CT's. If they repeat their bullshit enough times( the bullshit will stick) and other mindless people will follow the same bullshit, because it gives their LIFE HOPE, and something to BELIEVE IN to bring meaning to their existance of earth.

There is a meaning to life. If there wasn't then you wouldn't care if Muslims want to wage Jihad or not. If there is no Ultimate "God" then ALL morals are really just bullshit, there is no "equality" and there is nothing worth fighting for other than to "stay alive." There would be no reason to even discuss "right and wrong" anymore and you would have to create a belief in something just to teach other people right and wrong to keep their ignorant asses under control so you don't have to defend yourself against their stupid ass shit.

If life has no meaning, then why are you even discussing this with me?
Why not go out and do something else with your life?
Deep down inside you know there is an ultimate truth and you KNOW that you haven't found it yet. It is the same with me. It is what drives me. The moment I wake up I pick up a book. I read all day long, when I go outside for a smoke I have a book in my hand. When I take a shit, I have a book in my hand. I've completely set aside ALL friendships (aside from my wife/family) just to find this truth. I know it is there. I can feel it. And so can you. You're just angry because you can't find it. I'm irritated because I know it is there and can feel it but I don't understand it fully yet and can't express it.

That is why they're all SHEEP, I like being the WOLF, and i'm not sorry about that.

You're not a wolf. You want to be, but you're not.
The world has enough wolves anyway. Last thing we need is another one.